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[SlugButter]

Maybe we can vote for the stock market to fix the climate, since apparently “the market” controls the drilling of oil and politicians can do nothing.

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I don’t care Rob. You must not get that. Your experience as a trader in the most corrupt system in the world doesn’t make your knowledge any more useful than a guy who works as a laborer on an oil rig. Why not answer the question I asked you pages ago? If our government can’t affect the drilling and supply of oil, how did democrats plan on helping the environment once we actually elected them? Are you not an environmental voter?

Typical. Challenge laid down, your bluff gets called, change the discussion and “don’t care”.
Like a child on the playground. Weak.

 

[SlugButter]

Typical. Challenge laid down, your bluff gets called, change the discussion and “don’t care”.
Like a child on the playground. Weak.

You won’t answer direct questions that will inevitably discredit your argument is what it is.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Saudi is refusing while others can’t.
What benefit is it to Saudi Arabia to increase production and lower the selling price so the world can have lower gas prices?

Thxone: “Hey Rolex, you should increase your output so a Submariner is less exclusive and becomes more affordable”.
Rolex: “Go fvck yourself. This is OUR business to run, not yours”.

You should probably read more than just headlines if you want to support your argument, dumbasss.

"Saudi and the UAE have spare capacity, but they are refusing to increase output on their own," says Kate Dourian. "They don't want to be dictated to by the West.
They are saying that the gap between supply and demand is narrowing, and that today's high prices simply reflect panic on the part of oil buyers.
Other Opec+ nations are finding it hard to increase their oil production.”
You really aren’t just pretending to be clueless.

You got a bullshit response for everything don't ya diick head? Now you are saying they are finding it hard to increase oil production. Weird because I read directly from OPEC that they were not going to fill in the gaps... Not that they are finding it hard, but that they were not going to do it. Maybe you need to read more than one source for your information... Maybe try some unbiased sources. Maybe not bang your dog so hard.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You got a bullshit response for everything don't ya diick head? Now you are saying they are finding it hard to increase oil production. Weird because I read directly from OPEC that they were not going to fill in the gaps... Not that they are finding it hard, but that they were not going to do it. Maybe you need to read more than one source for your information... Maybe try some unbiased sources. Maybe not bang your dog so hard.

Douche nozzle: SAUDI HAS REFUSED. WE demand they reduce their profit so we can have better prices. They say “fvck off”. You think that means they are unable? Are you genuinely dim witted?
Every single information outlet I could reference says the same thing. Lemme guess: the entire WORLD is conspiring with me in order to prove you wrong?
Name a source you trust. I will share what they have to say.

Seriously, you should be embarrassed at your lack of knowledge or lack of ability to understand things. And you post it publicly day after day.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I love how Joe wants to spend more on vaccines, when there’s like food missing from the shelves and gas is skyrocketing. Gotta have some priorities, I guess.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Douche nozzle: SAUDI HAS REFUSED. WE demand they reduce their profit so we can have better prices. They say “fvck off”. You think that means they are unable? Are you genuinely dim witted?
Every single information outlet I could reference says the same thing. Lemme guess: the entire WORLD is conspiring with me in order to prove you wrong?
Name a source you trust. I will share what they have to say.

Seriously, you should be embarrassed at your lack of knowledge or lack of ability to understand things. And you post it publicly day after day.

Douche nozzel... I like that, that one is funny.

You are describing the way it usually works... however, Biden doesn't want lower gas prices so he isn't demanding anyone lower anything.

You think "Saudi" controls all the oil? So who are the rest of OPEC+... what do they do?

You do know that the bulk of our oil comes from Canada right?

What is it exactly that you think I don't know? Enlighten me.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Douche nozzel... I like that, that one is funny.

You are describing the way it usually works... however, Biden doesn't want lower gas prices so he isn't demanding anyone lower anything.

You think "Saudi" controls all the oil? So who are the rest of OPEC+... what do they do?

You do know that the bulk of our oil comes from Canada right?

What is it exactly that you think I don't know? Enlighten me.

I am describing what is actually happening that you referenced with OPEC. You think that if we stopped oil extraction here, no one would step in to fill the gap. You are using the current refusal by the Opec’d countries to cow-tow to our demands to increase supply simply to lower prices
It’s a false conclusion.
We are not demanding increased production to meet a NEED, we are demanding it to cause oversupply and drive prices down.
No supplier wants to work extra to drive down their income. That would be amazingly bad business.

Regarding oil extraction stopping here, an analogy: If one of the two mfgrs of glass for iPhones burned to the ground, what remaining mfgr would EVER would refuse to ramp up production to fill that hole in the supply that Apple is experiencing?
One that is run by an idiot, perhaps.

If you genuinely think that no other country would ramp up to fill our needs, you are sorely mistaken and really unaware of how commerce works.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Red herring. Your claim was that if we stopped producing oil, no one else would ramp up to fill that need. As if no oil company would want to sell more oil.

Speak to your stupid azz claim, and the obvious lack of a clue about supply side economics.
Tell us exactly WHY no outside interest would want to sell oil to us if we stopped extracting it here.

It's like being in High School and talking to first graders. They have no concept of supply/demand or cause/effect.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I am describing what is actually happening that you referenced with OPEC. You think that if we stopped oil extraction here, no one would step in to fill the gap. You are using the current refusal by the Opec’d countries to cow-tow to our demands to increase supply simply to lower prices
It’s a false conclusion.
We are not demanding increased production to meet a NEED, we are demanding it to cause oversupply and drive prices down.
No supplier wants to work extra to drive down their income. That would be amazingly bad business.

Regarding oil extraction stopping here, an analogy: If one of the two mfgrs of glass for iPhones burned to the ground, what remaining mfgr would EVER would refuse to ramp up production to fill that hole in the supply that Apple is experiencing?
One that is run by an idiot, perhaps.

If you genuinely think that no other country would ramp up to fill our needs, you are sorely mistaken and really unaware of how commerce works.

Actually, I didn't suggest ANY of what you are saying. YOU said if we stopped drilling here other countries WOULD ramp up production to fill in the gaps. I said "Except they aren't". You then went on your normal rant making statements and assigning them to people that never made them. You then keep trying to bring up iPhones. Who cares about iPhones??? I am an android user!

Here ya go fella... What manufacturer wouldn't ramp up to fill a hole??? Ummm OIL!!! Perhaps you are too sheltered to think greed is real? Maybe? Why ramp up and produce more oil when you can charge MORE for less. You get higher profits when you charge more money for less product. Perhaps you think that would be unethical and nobody would dare be unethical in today's world.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Still funny as hell.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Actually, I didn't suggest ANY of what you are saying. YOU said if we stopped drilling here other countries WOULD ramp up production to fill in the gaps. I said "Except they aren't". You then went on your normal rant making statements and assigning them to people that never made them. You then keep trying to bring up iPhones. Who cares about iPhones??? I am an android user!

Here ya go fella... What manufacturer wouldn't ramp up to fill a hole??? Ummm OIL!!! Perhaps you are too sheltered to think greed is real? Maybe? Why ramp up and produce more oil when you can charge MORE for less. You get higher profits when you charge more money for less product. Perhaps you think that would be unethical and nobody would dare be unethical in today's world.

Answer honestly: Do you REALLY believe that if we stopped extraction in the US, that no other country would try to ramp up to sell us the 26+ million barrels of oil a day that we need?
You think it would be “unethical” for them to try to increase their income by selling g more oil?

“Except they aren’t”. Once again, THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO THE OIL PRODUCERS TO LOWER PRICES AND DRIVE THEIR PROFITS DOWN SIMPLY BECAUSE A US PRESIDENT DEMANDS IT.

Biden made the demand and was essentially told to fvck off. Doesn’t that tell you ANYTHING?!?!

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Answer honestly: Do you REALLY believe that if we stopped extraction in the US, that no other country would try to ramp up to sell us the 26+ million barrels of oil a day that we need?
You think it would be “unethical” for them to try to increase their income by selling g more oil?

“Except they aren’t”. Once again, THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO THE OIL PRODUCERS TO LOWER PRICES AND DRIVE THEIR PROFITS DOWN SIMPLY BECAUSE A US PRESIDENT DEMANDS IT.

Biden made the demand and was essentially told to fvck off. Doesn’t that tell you ANYTHING?!?!

That question was never a topic.
I didn't say it would be unethical for them to sell MORE oil.

At this point Rob I am not even sure you are following the original conversation. How literal do I need to be in a conversation with you for you to understand the conversation. Answer honestly.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

That question was never a topic.
I didn't say it would be unethical for them to sell MORE oil.

At this point Rob I am not even sure you are following the original conversation. How literal do I need to be in a conversation with you for you to understand the conversation. Answer honestly.

Good luck lol