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[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

I see you retards are gonna keep on retarding. This place is literally just second hand embarrassment at this point.

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

This speaks to the disconnect between feelings and facts.
You can read the same thing in better, easier-to-read formatting if you read the actual article:
https://time.com/6130525/economy-do...nt rates, average,of the economic pyramid has

The various gauges we use to measure the economy are almost all as good or better than they’ve been in years, and in aggregate, better than they been since the beginning of the 21st-century.
GDP growth, unemployment rates, average wages have all been moving in the right direction, with unemployment at about 4%, a multi-year low even with places like New York City lagging behind; GDP growth is expected to be above 5.5% for 2021, the best since 1984; wage growth for the bottom of the economic pyramid has been notable for the first time in a generation. In fact, wage growth for the bottom of the economic pyramid has actually been faster than the one thing that dampens the picture: inflation.
Inflation hits those with the least the most. If you are barely scrimping by, having to pay $10-20 more for a full tank of gas and another $5-10 every time you buy food is a serious challenge. But even with inflation running a hot 6.8% in November, low-wage workers are seeing wage increases on average of as much of 8%, as employers scramble to meet surging demand for goods and services. That trajectory may be dented if Omicron leads to nationwide slow-downs but it is unlikely to be halted given a booming economy and pent-up demand that hasn’t yet been sated by a few months of explosive activity. Some dispute whether those gains have been as significant, and given the complexity of calculating, we won’t really know for sure what the wage picture is until later next year. Still, with so many large companies raising minimum wages and so many positions unfilled, there’s no question that low-end workers are doing better even with higher inflation.

In addition, unlike with the stagflation of the 1970s and the subsequent double-digit inflation of the early 1980s, today’s inflation is directly a product of more people with more money consuming more goods and services all at once after a pandemic year of selective consumption. That means that inflation now is a by-product of both government spending that cushioned the economic pain of the pandemic and of everyone from the working-poor to the very rich having more income. Inflation today is a by-product of a strong system, not a harbinger of a troubled one. That doesn’t mean inflation can’t be harmful or won’t end up destabilizing the economy. In that sense, inflation is much like obesity: it is a symptom of affluence, of too much, not a sign of impending contraction or scarcity.

But the public mood and the narrative don’t reflect those statistics. The chasm between how our public understanding of what’s going on economically and what our numbers say is not just a feature of our present. At few points in the past twenty years have Americans felt good about the future for very long. At no point since the bursting of ‘90s tech bubble and the subsequent recession of 2000 have American felt as good about the economy as they did throughout the 1990s, and the high point after twenty years of ups and mostly downs was January of 2020, when confidence about the economic future reached about where it was in early 1990s. And then came COVID-19.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

And... copy and..... paste.... and make these bold.... and underline this....

Rob, nobody cares how much you want to be right. You will never be able to tell people how to view the world or make them live without feelings. If you try to feed me a rotten apple I will, with emotion, shove said rotten apple up yonder tight ***. You can google the facts on how to remove the core till your heart is content.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

And... copy and..... paste.... and make these bold.... and underline this....

Rob, nobody cares how much you want to be right. You will never be able to tell people how to view the world or make them live without feelings. If you try to feed me a rotten apple I will, with emotion, shove said rotten apple up yonder tight ***. You can google the facts on how to remove the core till your heart is content.

Roughly translated: "I don't care that things are better and still improving. I hate Biden and will vote him out just for that reason alone."

Cut off your nose to spite your face.
Just. Fvcking. Stupid.
The sad thing is: You're proud of it.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Roughly translated: "I don't care that things are better and still improving. I hate Biden and will vote him out just for that reason alone."

Cut off your nose to spite your face.
Just. Fvcking. Stupid.
The sad thing is: You're proud of it.

Rob, you are more emotional than you think.

Here is your delusion. You see some positive numbers and they are happening under the administration you support so you FEEL that things are doing well and improving. You THINK that just because the numbers have the word "positive" attached to them that it means it's good. You look at these brush strokes in the corner of the painting and say YAY, WE ARE WINNING. Take a few steps back, look at the whole picture and realize you are clearly on acid and there is a reason everyone keeps arguing with you. Look at the whole picture Rob, climb out of the box. Stop pasting Google facts for phucks sake.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Rob, you are more emotional than you think.

Here is your delusion. You see some positive numbers and they are happening under the administration you support so you FEEL that things are doing well and improving. You THINK that just because the numbers have the word "positive" attached to them that it means it's good. You look at these brush strokes in the corner of the painting and say YAY, WE ARE WINNING. Take a few steps back, look at the whole picture and realize you are clearly on acid and there is a reason everyone keeps arguing with you. Look at the whole picture Rob, climb out of the box. Stop pasting Google facts for phucks sake.

With every word you post, you show your lack of intelligence.

If the metrics are moving in a positive direction, then tell us all the "bigger picture" that PROVES the administration is failing.
I know, I know, you FEEL things are bad in spite of the numbers showing otherwise. But, how about you show some proof instead?

Paint the BIG picture that you have all figured out that goes contrary to the factual data.
You know, just like how you know definitions better than the Oxford English Dictionary.
Share your vast knowledge with us.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

With every word you post, you show your lack of intelligence.

If the metrics are moving in a positive direction, then tell us all the "bigger picture" that PROVES the administration is failing.
I know, I know, you FEEL things are bad in spite of the numbers showing otherwise. But, how about you show some proof instead?

Paint the BIG picture that you have all figured out that goes contrary to the factual data.
You know, just like how you know definitions better than the Oxford English Dictionary.
Share your vast knowledge with us.

LOLOL!!!

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

As of the 18th there were 95 ships off the coast of California. <--- products for consumers!!!
What is the cost of fuel? And it's rising.
How full are the shelves at the grocery stores?
How many truckers do we have that can move product?
How energy DEPENDENT are we?
Where did COVID-19 come from? Answer: China
Why is the United States Government giving money to China and handing out free COVID test to Americans from the country that gave us COVID-19????
Why did Biden shut down our pipeline but help Russia instead?

I could go on but what is the point. Your response will be the same shit you have been spewing since the start of this thread.

"The numbers go up, you can't argue my googled facts!!!"

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

As of the 18th there were 95 ships off the coast of California. <--- products for consumers!!!
What is the cost of fuel? And it's rising.
How full are the shelves at the grocery stores?
How many truckers do we have that can move product?
How energy DEPENDENT are we?
Where did COVID-19 come from? Answer: China
Why is the United States Government giving money to China and handing out free COVID test to Americans from the country that gave us COVID-19????
Why did Biden shut down our pipeline but help Russia instead?

I could go on but what is the point. Your response will be the same shit you have been spewing since the start of this thread.

"The numbers go up, you can't argue my googled facts!!!"

I have 18" of fresh snow outside, therefore you have to shovel your driveway. RIGHT?
Your "BIG PICTURE" is looking at specific details and not the big picture.

Do you know what "big picture" even means? Maybe like Buck's confusion with "greater good", you have your definition reversed.

Try again. Give us the "BIG PICTURE" that shows all the metrics of a good economy are somehow incorrect, and you know better than the economists and all the sources of the data.
Remember: A blown tire is not a totaled car. Running out of milkshake mix does not close the McDonald's franchise or even a location. The rising cost of fuel does not mean the economy is tanking when incomes are rising faster.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I have 18" of fresh snow outside, therefore you have to shovel your driveway. RIGHT?
Your "BIG PICTURE" is looking at specific details and not the big picture.

Do you know what "big picture" even means? Maybe like Buck's confusion with "greater good", you have your definition reversed.

Try again. Give us the "BIG PICTURE" that shows all the metrics of a good economy are somehow incorrect, and you know better than the economists and all the sources of the data.

Why do you ask for things you are not interested in. All you do is argue anything posted. I am sure you actually believe that the shit you keep posting and talking about is the whole picture. Give me a break.

 

[Firewalker]

Cracks me up that people are still on that pipeline and that it was going to benefit the US.

Get this in your heads people...THE ONLY COUNTRY that was going to benefit was CHINA! All that stuff was going to down to the south then on to tankers headed to China to be processed. That stuff is nasty, corrosive and so bad that only 1 maybe 2 refineries in the US can handle it safely and they want NOTHING to do with it!

Only China will process it because it not only destroys equipment like crazy it is toxic to everything in the area. China doesn't care about that as we all know.

Stopping that bogus BS pipeline helped stop China from getting even more Oil. People who work or worked or family that worked in the oil industry know that kind of information. STOP believing the crap on the internet that it was going to help the US. It FLAT OUT WASN'T GOING TO! Not ONE DROP of OIL was staying here!

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

This speaks to the disconnect between feelings and facts.
You can read the same thing in better, easier-to-read formatting if you read the actual article:
https://time.com/6130525/economy-doing-well-why-does-it-feel-like-a-disaster/#:~:text=GDP growth, unemployment rates, average,of the economic pyramid has

The various gauges we use to measure the economy are almost all as good or better than they’ve been in years, and in aggregate, better than they been since the beginning of the 21st-century.
GDP growth, unemployment rates, average wages have all been moving in the right direction, with unemployment at about 4%, a multi-year low even with places like New York City lagging behind; GDP growth is expected to be above 5.5% for 2021, the best since 1984; wage growth for the bottom of the economic pyramid has been notable for the first time in a generation. In fact, wage growth for the bottom of the economic pyramid has actually been faster than the one thing that dampens the picture: inflation.
Inflation hits those with the least the most. If you are barely scrimping by, having to pay $10-20 more for a full tank of gas and another $5-10 every time you buy food is a serious challenge. But even with inflation running a hot 6.8% in November, low-wage workers are seeing wage increases on average of as much of 8%, as employers scramble to meet surging demand for goods and services. That trajectory may be dented if Omicron leads to nationwide slow-downs but it is unlikely to be halted given a booming economy and pent-up demand that hasn’t yet been sated by a few months of explosive activity. Some dispute whether those gains have been as significant, and given the complexity of calculating, we won’t really know for sure what the wage picture is until later next year. Still, with so many large companies raising minimum wages and so many positions unfilled, there’s no question that low-end workers are doing better even with higher inflation.

In addition, unlike with the stagflation of the 1970s and the subsequent double-digit inflation of the early 1980s, today’s inflation is directly a product of more people with more money consuming more goods and services all at once after a pandemic year of selective consumption. That means that inflation now is a by-product of both government spending that cushioned the economic pain of the pandemic and of everyone from the working-poor to the very rich having more income. Inflation today is a by-product of a strong system, not a harbinger of a troubled one. That doesn’t mean inflation can’t be harmful or won’t end up destabilizing the economy. In that sense, inflation is much like obesity: it is a symptom of affluence, of too much, not a sign of impending contraction or scarcity.

But the public mood and the narrative don’t reflect those statistics. The chasm between how our public understanding of what’s going on economically and what our numbers say is not just a feature of our present. At few points in the past twenty years have Americans felt good about the future for very long. At no point since the bursting of ‘90s tech bubble and the subsequent recession of 2000 have American felt as good about the economy as they did throughout the 1990s, and the high point after twenty years of ups and mostly downs was January of 2020, when confidence about the economic future reached about where it was in early 1990s. And then came COVID-19.

what this whole entire stupid article you posted fails to capture is that even with the rising wages, inflation is rising at a higher and more rapid rate

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Why do you ask for things you are not interested in. All you do is argue anything posted. I am sure you actually believe that the shit you keep posting and talking about is the whole picture. Give me a break.

I ask because I am hoping for an answer.
An answer that you seem entirely unable to provide, no matter the question.

If I ask the color of the grass, you probably say “I bought new tires for my junkwagon”.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

what this whole entire stupid article you posted fails to capture is that even with the rising wages, inflation is rising at a higher and more rapid rate

If you read the article, the stats say otherwise.
You can certainly prove them wrong by providing other data. But please, don’t do what that other guy does and say “I feel it’s wrong and I already proved it”.