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[SlugButter]

Weird how?

Fully vaccinated people are still dying from covid. It’s happening too often. I personally know 3 vaccinated people who have contracted covid, although they didn’t get very sick. Not sure if the vaccine helped or if they wouldn’t have gotten very sick to begin with. This is why I am not totally convinced that the vaccine helps get a milder case if you do have a breakthrough infection. How do we know the person wouldn’t have gotten very sick even without even taking the vaccine? Asymptomatic infection is common in unvaccinated people already, so I’m not sure how you can know if the vaccine actually helped that or not. There’s a lot of odd things about this pandemic. Having questions about things doesn’t make someone a vaccine denier. This isn’t our religion.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

*A* pharmacist.
*A* doctor.
*A* doctor.
Yet you could find 100 pharmacists,100 doctors, 100 immunologists, and 100 scientists who say you SHOULD take it.
Per the AMA, NINETY-SIX percent of doctors are vaccinated.

You’ll accept the advice of your outliers who are VASTLY outnumbered and being proved flat-out wrong by the stats, because it’s the advice you WANT to hear.
Why even ask for the advice?
Cognitive dissonance exemplified.

Do you take your medical advice from YOUR doctor or all of the thousands and thousands you don't see?

I took my advice from the qualified medical professionals in my area that I see when there were no reported cases in my area. I didn't catch COVID until late July 2021. I was sick, never went to the E.R. and stayed home. I am now recovered. Turns out, the medical professionals I spoke to were RIGHT. I didn't need to take the vaccine. Guess what I don't have. Side effects from an unproven and rushed vaccine. Guess what I do have. Natural immunity.

The vaccines are not for everyone and not needed by everyone. Why do you insist on continuing to ignore those facts?

You speak to your primary care provider who knows your medical history. Ask them if they think you should take the vaccine. If they say yes, then do it. If they say no and you are skeptical, get a second opinion. But just because you got it doesn't mean you need to shame others who haven't taken it. It may not be medically necessary for the people you are shaming. That is another reason the government has no place in trying to mandate everyone to take it.

Assuming they can make me take the vaccine is implying ownership over my person. No person or entity owns me. The government is using you to guilt and shame people into getting the vaccine as well. Like a Drill Sergeant who puts the responsibility of motivating your peers to fall in line in your hands so and they can sit back and deny they did anything.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I’m happy to prove things I have claimed. And I have done it plenty. Even things I have said about you.
Why would you look to me for proof of things I don’t claim?

You haven't actually. You have succeeded in taking words I have said out of context many times then claiming you won some kind of contest against me by doing so but haven't actually done a damn thing except continuously spew out verbal diarrhea to everyone you argue with as if arguing till the end of time will somehow improve your life. Clue: It won't.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Fully vaccinated people are still dying from covid. It’s happening too often. I personally know 3 vaccinated people who have contracted covid, although they didn’t get very sick. Not sure if the vaccine helped or if they wouldn’t have gotten very sick to begin with. This is why I am not totally convinced that the vaccine helps get a milder case if you do have a breakthrough infection. How do we know the person wouldn’t have gotten very sick even without even taking the vaccine? Asymptomatic infection is common in unvaccinated people already, so I’m not sure how you can know if the vaccine actually helped that or not. There’s a lot of odd things about this pandemic. Having questions about things doesn’t make someone a vaccine denier. This isn’t our religion.

When you're dealing with the blue sky effects of things, it boils down to correlation and causation.
Does the mere existence of a police force keep crime numbers lower than they would be without one? Hard to say unless you can compare two very similar cities, one with and one without a force.

Will you EVER know that your three friends were helped by the vax? No.
Does it say anything that I have three friends of similar age and overall health who got COVID, one who is unvaccinated and now can't walk without a walker and will be out of work for 6 months, the other two who got sick and were back to work within 2 1/2 weeks but are vaccinated? No. It's too small a statistical sampling.

BUT the FACT that the very vast majority of people who are being hospitalized with COVID are NOT vaccinated says a whole lot. Is it a coincidence that out of three people I personally know who got COVID, the one who is unvaccinated got it the worst? Possibly.
It is coincidence that out of 3,143,513 hospital admissions due to COVID, more than 3,112,077 (an excess of 99%) of them are NOT vaccinated? Sorry, when you hit numbers like that, calling it a coincidence is being utterly blind to math and statistics.
It's like claiming the dramatic reduction in auto deaths following mandatory seatbelt laws is just a coincidence, or that it's just a coincidence that more deaths or sever injuries happen to non-helmeted motorcyclists in accidents than helmeted ones, or just a coincidence that casinos keep as much as 99.5% of the money that goes into slot machines (an adjustable percentage, by the way).
The bigger the statistical sampling, the easier it is to rule out coincidence, happenstance, poor timing, etc. A statistical sampling in the multiple MILLIONS? Please...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You haven't actually. You have succeeded in taking words I have said out of context many times then claiming you won some kind of contest against me by doing so but haven't actually done a damn thing except continuously spew out verbal diarrhea to everyone you argue with as if arguing till the end of time will somehow improve your life. Clue: It won't.

I'd gladly list some things I have said about you or that you have said and you can tell us where I got it wrong. I'll paraphrase:

• You said a woman who gets ***** deserves it if she dresses provocatively.
• You said a woman deserves to get beat if she says the wrong thing to your mother.
• You said it is impossible that more than 99% but less than 100% of a population sampling can be vaccinated.
• You said the Oxford dictionary AND a leaf spring manufacturer got the definition of "monoleaf" wrong, but YOU know the correct definition.
• When I used M&Ms as an example of how 40% can be a majority of the group, you insisted I had to use 100 instead of the 90 in the example, otherwise a percentage couldn't be calculated.
• You think that the polio, measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, varicella, chicken pox, etc. vaccines were all somehow "proved with time" simply because they had been in use for years before YOU got one (ignoring the fact that they were not "proved with time" when they started giving them to the public).
• You claimed to know the meaning/definition of "irony", then tried to say my examples of irony were incorrect (in spite of opposing proof) AND I was a bad person for using them because they referenced things that were not "funny".
• You asked what I contribute to society, then when you found out I volunteered in the community, you tried to turn it into a negative.
• You claimed gas prices spiked due tot he rush to get toilet paper, even though no such thing happened.
• You claimed you delivered pizza under two different presidential administrations, then claimed you are not a pizza delivery guy.
• You claimed I was overpaid and did poorly at my job because I don't look at prices at the gas pump, then said now that you got a job that you will be starting someday, you will stop caring about gas prices.

I'm sure you'll respond with "blah blah blah, it's all bullshlt" or "I am far too busy to respond to such trolling nonsense" or some other weak sidestep. But the fact of the matter is that these are all legit examples.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I'd gladly list some things I have said about you or that you have said and you can tell us where I got it wrong. I'll paraphrase:

• You said a woman who gets ***** deserves it if she dresses provocatively.
• You said a woman deserves to get beat if she says the wrong thing to your mother.
• You said it is impossible that more than 99% but less than 100% of a population sampling can be vaccinated.
• You said the Oxford dictionary AND a leaf spring manufacturer got the definition of "monoleaf" wrong, but YOU know the correct definition.
• When I used M&Ms as an example of how 40% can be a majority of the group, you insisted I had to use 100 instead of the 90 in the example, otherwise a percentage couldn't be calculated.
• You think that the polio, measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, varicella, chicken pox, etc. vaccines were all somehow "proved with time" simply because they had been in use for years before YOU got one (ignoring the fact that they were not "proved with time" when they started giving them to the public).
• You claimed to know the meaning/definition of "irony", then tried to say my examples of irony were incorrect (in spite of opposing proof) AND I was a bad person for using them becasue they referenced things that were not "funny".

I'm sure you'll respond with "blah blah blah, it's all bullshlt" or "I am far too busy to respond to such trolling nonsense" or some other weak sidestep. But the fact of the matter is that these are all legit examples.

As I have said several times to you now. YOU TAKE MY WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT AND THEN ARGUE WITH ME IN SOME ATTEMPT TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD. I have explained to your ignorant asss what you have taken out of context several times now. Here you go doing it again and making a list AND again you are trying to tell me what I think in the list you have made. I stand by the statement made before. You are retarded.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I'd gladly list some things I have said about you or that you have said and you can tell us where I got it wrong. I'll paraphrase:

• You said a woman who gets ***** deserves it if she dresses provocatively.
• You said a woman deserves to get beat if she says the wrong thing to your mother.
• You said it is impossible that more than 99% but less than 100% of a population sampling can be vaccinated.
• You said the Oxford dictionary AND a leaf spring manufacturer got the definition of "monoleaf" wrong, but YOU know the correct definition.
• When I used M&Ms as an example of how 40% can be a majority of the group, you insisted I had to use 100 instead of the 90 in the example, otherwise a percentage couldn't be calculated.
• You think that the polio, measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, varicella, chicken pox, etc. vaccines were all somehow "proved with time" simply because they had been in use for years before YOU got one (ignoring the fact that they were not "proved with time" when they started giving them to the public).
• You claimed to know the meaning/definition of "irony", then tried to say my examples of irony were incorrect (in spite of opposing proof) AND I was a bad person for using them because they referenced things that were not "funny".
• You asked what I contribute to society, then when you found out I volunteered in the community, you tried to turn it into a negative.
• You claimed gas prices spiked due tot he rush to get toilet paper, even though no such thing happened.
• You claimed you delivered pizza under two different presidential administrations, then claimed you are not a pizza delivery guy.
• You claimed I was overpaid and did poorly at my job because I don't look at prices at the gas pump, then said now that you got a job that you will be starting someday, you will stop caring about gas prices.

I'm sure you'll respond with "blah blah blah, it's all bullshlt" or "I am far too busy to respond to such trolling nonsense" or some other weak sidestep. But the fact of the matter is that these are all legit examples.

The sad thing about you... you actually believe this shiit you just posted.

RobGMN literally thinks all Americans who think for themselves should be killed by the government. It's true, he thinks this.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The sad thing about you... you actually believe this shiit you just posted.

RobGMN literally thinks all Americans who think for themselves should be killed by the government. It's true, he thinks this.

And THERRRRRE is the sidestep.

I can prove every single thing I have posted with quotes direct from every post where it happened, and have done so on some occasions. You think I somehow "take your words out of context", even when I quote complete sentences of paragraphs, or posts.
Sorry, quoting your words is not "interpreting" or "providing context", it's literally the things you SAY.

You are so lost in your own incapability, it's sad.

 

[AnthonyO 10+ year member]

Aight, I was diagnosed with Delta Variant COVID on 10/7/2021. I have received both doses of the Pfizer Vaccine back in April 2021. All I know is that I was sick as f*ck. I was coughing up blood, nausea, vomiting, and was running a low grade fever. Sh!t was no joke. I have never been that sick before. All I wanted to do was sleep. I didn't want to eat or drink, just sleep.

Now I can look at it 1 of 2 ways.

1. The vaccine did'nt do sh!t for me, cause I caught COVID

or

2. The vaccine did what it was supposed to, and made the symptoms less than they would have been had I not gotten it.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

And THERRRRRE is the sidestep.

I can prove every single thing I have posted with quotes direct from every post where it happened, and have done so on some occasions. You think I somehow "take your words out of context", even when I quote complete sentences of paragraphs, or posts.
Sorry, quoting your words is not "interpreting" or "providing context", it's literally the things you SAY.

You are so lost in your own incapability, it's sad.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify being who you are. I don't care.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Aight, I was diagnosed with Delta Variant COVID on 10/7/2021. I have received both doses of the Pfizer Vaccine back in April 2021. All I know is that I was sick as f*ck. I was coughing up blood, nausea, vomiting, and was running a low grade fever. Sh!t was no joke. I have never been that sick before. All I wanted to do was sleep. I didn't want to eat or drink, just sleep.

Now I can look at it 1 of 2 ways.

1. The vaccine did'nt do sh!t for me, cause I caught COVID

or

2. The vaccine did what it was supposed to, and made the symptoms less than they would have been had I not gotten it.

You fit squarely in the category of people that Slug and I have both referred to, and described exactly the two ways you can view that situation when it's an individual.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify being who you are. I don't care.

While you continue to feel you are correct in spite of myriad proofs that you are not.
Wandering blindly through life.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

While you continue to feel you are correct in spite of myriad proofs that you are not.
Wandering blindly through life.

I don't care.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I don't care.

You did a few posts ago, until you were challenged to back up your words. And you couldn't.
It's like you're living by the playbook.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Not only do you not know how to spell “en masse”, you obviously don’t know what it means if you are using it to describe employees quitting over vax mandates.

Hospital For Special Surgery, NY: 18 out of 5,000
Houston Methodist: 153 of 26,000
Indiana University Health: 125 of 35,800
Inova Health: 89 of 20,000
Kaiser Permanente: 2,200 of 240,000
Maine Health: 58 of 23,000

Let me know if you see any type of trend or commonality among these numbers. If you can’t, let me know and I’ll point them out for you.

Dude, NY had to declare an emergency over hospital workers quitting. There's tons and tons of people quitting across multiple areas of both public and private sector.


The vaccinate mandates are illegal Nazi fascist garbage. The vaccine doesn't even work, and many of the places with the most covid cases and deaths are the highest vaccinated. Those are all facts.


F*ck anyone who believes in mandatory vaccination. Seriously, rot in hell. Only individuals have the final say in their healthcare; the federal government making vaccines mandatory in public sectors is completely illegal. If we all don't wind up in a massive world war over everything, then the people who ran this will be rounded up and prosecuted like the Nazis did during the Nuremberg Trials, and many people will be killed for their absolute criminal insanity for developing and releasing this planned bioweapon onto humanity, and violating every law on individual rights and medicinal practices.