WTB: 0 gauge

[UnderFire 10+ year member]

Looking for a run of 0 gauge, 15ft or longer, and some pieces for the big 3. OFC only. Lmk what you've got.

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[av83 10+ year member]

how does the monster wire compare to knukonceptz wire?

I haven't owned knu 1/0 ofc, but I do own the 4 gauge. I upgraded to the monster from the knu 4. If I could have gotten 50 ft of Knu 1/0 for 119 shipped(the price of the monster), that would have been my choice. However, 50 ft of Knu 1/0 is about 205 shipped. The Knu is so over-sized that it's actually rated for 375 amps @ 20 ft, whereas most ofc 1/0 is rated for 300. Monster wire is also over-sized, but I don't know by how much because of a "flux tube" that runs down the center of the wire, inflating it's size a little bit. I do know that it's copper weight per foot is above average. There is a sticky here:http://www.caraudio.com/forums/wiring-electrical-installation-help/515724-wire-comparison.html that does a great job of comparing the physical attributes of the wires. That's where I found out about it's copper weight per ft. Unfortunately, it doesn't get into load testing, which is what matters most.

 

[alec14 10+ year member]

I haven't owned knu 1/0 ofc, but I do own the 4 gauge. I upgraded to the monster from the knu 4. If I could have gotten 50 ft of Knu 1/0 for 119 shipped(the price of the monster), that would have been my choice. However, 50 ft of Knu 1/0 is about 205 shipped. The Knu is so over-sized that it's actually rated for 375 amps @ 20 ft, whereas most ofc 1/0 is rated for 300. Monster wire is also over-sized, but I don't know by how much because of a "flux tube" that runs down the center of the wire, inflating it's size a little bit. I do know that it's copper weight per foot is above average. There is a sticky here:http://www.caraudio.com/forums/wiring-electrical-installation-help/515724-wire-comparison.html that does a great job of comparing the physical attributes of the wires. That's where I found out about it's copper weight per ft. Unfortunately, it doesn't get into load testing, which is what matters most.

Ahh, okay. I've been looking for some good 0 gauge, so thank you for the help!

 

[butterMilk 10+ year member]

When pure copper is exposed to our atmosphere, it oxidizes. Fairly quickly, at that. Oxidation is not only ugly(the wire turns black at first, and eventually green), but also decreases the amount of current that the wire is capable of passing through it. Normal copper wire, depending on environment, will begin to oxidize in less than five years, often much less. Tinned copper will last a lot longer. The tin coating will have to fully oxidize before the copper can even begin to oxidize. Here's a copy and paste from the BCAE website:
As you have probably noticed, wire designated as OFC wire usually has a clear insulation and the wire is bright and shiny underneath the transparent insulator. Well... It is nice and shiny for a while but after a short time (actually from the time it is drawn), it starts to oxidize (unless the wire is kept in an oxygen free atmosphere). When copper oxidizes, it becomes a less effective conductor. This means that, in time, the wire's current carrying capabilities will become significantly reduced. The problem is made worse by having many very small conductors. This creates even more surface area which makes the oxidation process even more efficient. In my opinion, if you are designing a system of any type for long term use, I think the better choice is a 'tinned' copper wire (often sold as marine grade wire or boat wire). In this type of wire, the copper is plated with tin or similar conductor (maybe a lead/tin or bismuth/tin alloy) which will not oxidize as quickly and never as completely as the bare copper. As a side note, this has nothing to do with the copper being 'oxygen free'. It has everything to do with the fact that the wire is unprotected (untinned) and is finely stranded. I used OFC wire in this example because most OFC has many fine unprotected strands.

The monster wire is available in red, black(both untinned), and silver(tinned), There is blue(tinned), as well, but I haven't seen any for sale at the discounted prices. Since the tinned is the same price as the regular wire, it was a no-brainer for me. Plus, my car is silver, so that was nice. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Thanks for that!!

 

[av83 10+ year member]

Thanks for that!!

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