WOW my friend just caught his wife up!!

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

That's what I was getting at. Either party could change...but that is change that the person decides, not forced upon them. If it doesn't look like there is anything coming down the pipe to cause that change, odds are, the person isn't going to change.

Agreed.

 

[was not was]

Where in the constitution is there this right to privacy? I'd like to what set of laws this falls under.

Are you saying there is a difference between deception (ie setting up traps) and deception (ie spying).

You are an idiot.

A right need not be bound by law or some silly human drawn document. These rights may not carry the same weight between people and environment either. I am stating from my point of view.

Is it ok to you that the police just tap all your communications without your knowledge or set up a sting to snare you instead?

If the trap I setup is in the open where privacy is not to be expected, then yes it carries less deception than unauthorized access to private communications.

I see you are quick to start with the name calling like any other E-thug here. Disappointing, really.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

A right need not be bound by law or some silly human drawn document. These rights may not carry the same weight between people and environment either. I am stating from my point of view.
Is it ok to you that the police just tap all your communications without your knowledge or set up a sting to snare you instead?

If the trap I setup is in the open where privacy is not to be expected, then yes it carries less deception than unauthorized access to private communications.

I see you are quick to start with the name calling like any other E-thug here. Disappointing, really.

I chose US law as the basis of my argument rather some random opinion.

Portions of the Patriot Act allow the police to tap all my communications without my consent. By the virtue of remaining a US citizen, I am agreeing to abide by Federal Law.

Precisely how do you define when and where privacy is to be expected?

No e-thug, just calling them how I see them.

 

[atoz350 10+ year member]

The best thing he can do right now is to start signing over his posessions to close relatives. The house and the cars need to be "sold" to his parents or someone he trusts. That way when the divorce comes, he has no assets. No need to quit his job. If cause of divorce was for a cheating spouse, she won't be getting any alimony. By him keeping his job and her not having one, he stands a better chance keeping his kids.

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

**** 27 and divorced and remarried.....anyone see that this woman moves as quick to marriage as marion jones does to steroids

should've gone with bonds

 

[was not was]

I chose US law as the basis of my argument rather some random opinion.
Portions of the Patriot Act allow the police to tap all my communications without my consent. By the virtue of remaining a US citizen, I am agreeing to abide by Federal Law.

Precisely how do you define when and where privacy is to be expected?

No e-thug, just calling them how I see them.

Using law as a decision on Ehtical behavior makes zero sense. Of course if that is your method, then who am I to say it is wrong.

I choose based on my own autonomy. You say as a US citizen you must abide by the law of your country. I say as a human, you have a duty to peacefully break any law you find unjust and not in tune with natural law or ones own set of ethical principles. Laws get passed on popular vote and false appeals all the time.

Privacy is expected in one on one in any medium not doe out in public. Phone conversation at home, email accounts that are password protected.

 

[BoomBoomBoy 10+ year member]

What a stupid *****......

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

The best thing he can do right now is to start signing over his posessions to close relatives. The house and the cars need to be "sold" to his parents or someone he trusts. That way when the divorce comes, he has no assets. No need to quit his job. If cause of divorce was for a cheating spouse, she won't be getting any alimony. By him keeping his job and her not having one, he stands a better chance keeping his kids.

I am not so certain of the bolded portion. But I am no lawyer.

But yes, financially preparing for divorce is his best route, but I think he fucked it all up.

Using law as a decision on Ehtical behavior makes zero sense. Of course if that is your method, then who am I to say it is wrong.
I choose based on my own autonomy. You say as a US citizen you must abide by the law of your country. I say as a human, you have a duty to peacefully break any law you find unjust and not in tune with natural law or ones own set of ethical principles. Laws get passed on popular vote and false appeals all the time.

Privacy is expected in one on one in any medium not doe out in public. Phone conversation at home, email accounts that are password protected.

I see no difference in setting traps in public or private places. Deception is deception.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

The best thing he can do right now is to start signing over his posessions to close relatives. The house and the cars need to be "sold" to his parents or someone he trusts. That way when the divorce comes, he has no assets. No need to quit his job. If cause of divorce was for a cheating spouse, she won't be getting any alimony. By him keeping his job and her not having one, he stands a better chance keeping his kids.

You should stick to things you know before giving "SOLID" advice.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

I am not so certain of the bolded portion. But I am no lawyer.But yes, financially preparing for divorce is his best route, but I think he fucked it all up.

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There is more wrong(sorta) in that post than just the bolded.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

I kinda hope he stays home and busts in on them on Sunday, then spray foam or something all over with balloons and confetti and make it a big deal. That shit would be HILARIOUS.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

There is more wrong(sorta) in that post than just the bolded.

A mass exodus of possessions is a clear signal that shit is going to go down. I don't have many *things* to begin with and have exhibited behavior of throwing/giving many things away in the past, so continued behavior wouldn't throw up any signs.

Financial accounts, otoh, aren't easily hidden, thus, I don't know what to do about them. Perhaps overpay for services of some kind...not sure. But I don't think selling a car to your mom for $100 is going to cut it. They'd try to get money out of your mom.

This process is one that makes several months, not weeks or days.

 

[was not was]

I see no difference in setting traps in public or private places. Deception is deception.

There is a difference. In one instance I am not compounding it by also trampling the right to privacy. There are definitely varying degrees to almost anything. if there wasn't then we would also have a one punishment fits all system. Which maybe you are in favor of.

 

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

He's gonna stay with her. I could tell the weakness in his heart. She's been writing and keeping up with dude all his time in jail. The heart wants what the heart wants. Married chicks with myspace pages are wh0res.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

A mass exodus of possessions is a clear signal that shit is going to go down. I don't have many *things* to begin with and have exhibited behavior of throwing/giving many things away in the past, so continued behavior wouldn't throw up any signs.
Financial accounts, otoh, aren't easily hidden, thus, I don't know what to do about them. Perhaps overpay for services of some kind...not sure. But I don't think selling a car to your mom for $100 is going to cut it. They'd try to get money out of your mom.

This process is one that makes several months, not weeks or days.

If the money or items are premarital then nothing really needs to be done in most cases. Selling many items to family or friends makes usually no sense. You will still be required to cover half the market value in most judgments. I don't know about going after mom, but they certainly will make you responsible for that asset when it comes down to splitting assets.

I am not saying this mentality of dissipation can't work to your benefit for some things, but they are few. Especially when dealing with depreciating material objects.

why transfer the title of a car that's currently worth 10,000 - pay her $5000 cash for your dumbass dissipating marital assets and then 2 years down the road the vehicle you transferred is only worth 5000 anyway and she got that much in cash!

Now as far as the alimony and cheating thing. His blanket general statement is hardly true. Many states have done away with alimony to begin with and even more states are no fault. So she could **** an entire state but still get alimony in no fault state that does alimony still.

Now here is where the real kick in the balls comes from.

Her not having a job would make her more available to the children so just because he has a job doesn't mean hes the better parent - funny thing, since she doesn't have a job, she has a good chance of having the court order him to pay her attorney's fees!