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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

There are no men. If I get an AR and monster truck can I be in the "men's club?"

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

How has Buck not beat me to this. Putin should have known his countrymen didn't really want war with the Ukraine and if things didn't exactly as planned (which they never do) this shyt would blow up in his face. If I were Zelinsky, I'd issue an edict that he will stop hostilities and declare unilateral peace if Russian troops withdraw from occupied territories. He could get several NATO and probably some non-NATO leaders to back his edict. I'd bet you'd see a lot of Russian troops retreat or desert.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/europe/russia-mod-wagner-yevgeny-prigozhin-intl/index.html

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

This guy is so full of shyt. It's been pretty well documented that Hillary and Putin are political enemies. Putin's motivation for interfering in the 2016 elections was his hatred for Hillary Clinton, not a love of Trump. Putin would have likely interfered against Hillary regardless of who the GOP candidate, because he wanted payback for what he saw as Hillary interfering in Russian elections as SOS. Now he's working with Hillary to prove that he colluded with Trump? How f'ing stupid does somebody have to be to believe that. If Putin wanted us to believe he colluded with Trump (weather he actually did or didn't), all he has to do is say so or have somebody leak it. It's astonishing to me the crap the willing mind will buy.

The ability of people to disconnect or disconnect others from reality because it's a "good narrative" is beyond me. I thought Bill Clinton was the pinnacle of lying in politics, then Cheney & Rumsfeld one upped Clinton with WMD lies. Now we have social media platforms dedicated to spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories, congress critters playing propaganda puppet on their social media accounts, and 24/7 "news" outlets that are at best telling 1/2 the truth and that's only when they're not distorting the truth or outright lying.

I think you might be missing the point some…Russia didn’t really have that large of an impact on the election, just that a Russian was paid and used to help fabricate the Steele Dossier to try to make it seem more legit, like they had inside Russian info on the collusion, which was a lie. Trump didn’t collude with Russia; Hillary and the FBI and everyone around the Steele dossier, which was a complete fabrication, they're the ones who illegally interfered in the elections and were how a Russian was paid to help make the fabricated Steele Dossier.

The fabricated Steele Dossier was used to get a FISA warrant and spy on the Trump campaign (Crossfire Hurricane).

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

@Jimi77

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I think you might be missing the point some…Russia didn’t really have that large of an impact on the election, just that a Russian was paid and used to help fabricate the Steele Dossier to try to make it seem more legit, like they had inside Russian info on the collusion, which was a lie. Trump didn’t collude with Russia; Hillary and the FBI and everyone around the Steele dossier, which was a complete fabrication, they're the ones who illegally interfered in the elections and were how a Russian was paid to help make the fabricated Steele Dossier.

The fabricated Steele Dossier was used to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, shared their internal polling data with a known Russian asset. You don't want to call the collusion, then don't. Maybe they thought it was being used to advertise Russian mail order brides to young conservative males and had no idea Russia would use that data to create political ads targeting Clinton.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

The “coup“ has ended. Wagner retreats

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, shared their internal polling data with a known Russian asset. You don't want to call the collusion, then don't. Maybe they thought it was being used to advertise Russian mail order brides to young conservative males and had no idea Russia would use that data to create political ads targeting Clinton.

I gave internal polling data to your mom

That’s a nothing burger:

‘Mueller was ultimately unable to prove that the Trump campaign illegally conspired with Russia to influence the election. And it seems highly unlikely that the information Manafort provided to Kilimnik was responsible for tipping the race to Trump…’

Exclusive: Paul Manafort admits he passed Trump campaign data to a suspected Russian asset

Trump's former campaign chair tells Insider he shared polling data with longtime business associate Konstantin Kilimnik to help secure business deals.

www.businessinsider.com

 

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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I gave internal polling data to your mom

That’s a nothing burger:

‘Mueller was ultimately unable to prove that the Trump campaign illegally conspired with Russia to influence the election. And it seems highly unlikely that the information Manafort provided to Kilimnik was responsible for tipping the race to Trump…’

Exclusive: Paul Manafort admits he passed Trump campaign data to a suspected Russian asset

Trump's former campaign chair tells Insider he shared polling data with longtime business associate Konstantin Kilimnik to help secure business deals.

www.businessinsider.com

Like I said they were probably funneled polling data to Russia to for a Russian Mail Order Brides advertising campaign targeting conservative men. I'm 99.99% certain if Clinton funneled polling data to Russia, you wouldn't blow it off as "nothing burger." We both know you'd do the exact opposite.

Manafort got caught funneling polling data, so I'm not sure why whack jobs are b!tching about the DNC, Clinton and Obama investigating if this more than a Russian Mail Order Bride advertising campaign. I'm not sure how an investigation into wrong doing by the Trump campaign gets equated to Hillary colluding with Russia, other than they know some suckers on the right will run with that narrative.

As for weather Russian interference tipped the scales

.7% difference in Florida would have flipped the State - 29 EVs (Trump won by 1.2%)
.2% would have flipped Michigan - 16 EVs
1.9% would have flipped Pennsylvania - 20 EVs
.4% would have flipped Wisconsin - 10 EVs
1.8% would have flipped Arizonia - 11 Evs
1.9% flipps North Carolina 15 EVs

Any combination of those states that nets Clinton 38 Electoral votes would have put Hillary in the WH. As a conspiracy theorist, I would think you would fact check Business Insider before posting that drivel.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Like I said they were probably funneled polling data to Russia to for a Russian Mail Order Brides advertising campaign targeting conservative men. I'm 99.99% certain if Clinton funneled polling data to Russia, you wouldn't blow it off as "nothing burger." We both know you'd do the exact opposite.

Manafort got caught funneling polling data, so I'm not sure why whack jobs are b!tching about the DNC, Clinton and Obama investigating if this more than a Russian Mail Order Bride advertising campaign. I'm not sure how an investigation into wrong doing by the Trump campaign gets equated to Hillary colluding with Russia, other than they know some suckers on the right will run with that narrative.

As for weather Russian interference tipped the scales

.7% difference in Florida would have flipped the State - 29 EVs (Trump won by 1.2%)
.2% would have flipped Michigan - 16 EVs
1.9% would have flipped Pennsylvania - 20 EVs
.4% would have flipped Wisconsin - 10 EVs
1.8% would have flipped Arizonia - 11 Evs
1.9% flipps North Carolina 15 EVs

Any combination of those states that nets Clinton 38 Electoral votes would have put Hillary in the WH. As a conspiracy theorist, I would think you would fact check Business Insider before posting that drivel.

Yeah, I’ll just take your word for it

Trump had an illegal microscope up his cornhole where every move he does is being watched, and they still didn’t find any Russian collusion. If they did, they would’ve tried to crucify him over it, gtfoutta here with Russian collusion. I’m not the biggest fan of trump either, but they’re wrecking the country going after him. The people who hate trump with all their might couldn’t prove russian collusion, so fact check that.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yeah, I’ll just take your word for it

Trump had an illegal microscope up his cornhole where every move he does is being watched, and they still didn’t find any Russian collusion. If they did, they would’ve tried to crucify him over it, gtfoutta here with Russian collusion. I’m not the biggest fan of trump either, but they’re wrecking the country going after him. The people who hate trump with all their might couldn’t prove russian collusion, so fact check that.

LOL - don't take my word for it. Do some research, Manafort got caught funneling polling data to Russia. That's a fact. You're welcome to believe that it was just some innocent oversight, part of the Mail Order Russian Bride advertising campaign or whatever else you can come up. But people in the Trump campaign were feeding Russia polling data, so they got investigated. There was enough there that a bunch of legislators, many of whom were lawyers and/or prosecutors, held a trial where witnesses were forbidden. It's odd the level of evidence you require to go off on any of your tangents against the vax, Soros, Obama, Clinton, Gates, FBI, DOJ, etc, yet you so easily dismiss the fact TrumpCo got caught funneling polling data to Russia. Why is that? You seem to enjoy a good conspiracy, what's wrong with this one?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

And just like that civil war is averted...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/06/25/russia-ukraine-war-wagner-putin-live-updates/

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

LOL - don't take my word for it. Do some research, Manafort got caught funneling polling data to Russia. That's a fact.

Then why wasn’t he charged with Russian collusion related crimes?