Winners only.

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

Guns are a protected right, but even rights can be regulated.
Witness Free Speech. Try using free speech that causes a panic in a public place.

Guns are not going anywhere, period. But some regulation is just common sense. Felon? No gun. Child? No gun. Mental defects? No gun.
Want a gun? Wait a few days. There is really no reason someone must have a gun same-day. A few days ain’t gonna ruin your life.

More common sense: allow guns to be carried everywhere. It’s not the sane people you need to worry about. It’s the nuts. And they obviously don’t give two shits about rules to begin with.
If 50% of the adults present at any mass shootings were armed, it’s a certainty that the casualty counts would have been lower, save for incidences like Vegas or distance shooters.

The problem with common sense is that it isn’t.

It's obvious you deliberately avoided the common talking point of "yelling fire in a crowded theatre", but you didn't veer far enough to create a separate point.

Is voting a right? Is that right protected, or can it be regulated? Do you agree with voter ID requirements?

Felon? Their gun right revocation should depend on the crime. Child? Lots of differences between an infant and 17 years old. A kid raised to use and respect guns is very different from a kid who has never fired one before. Mental "defect"? You're opening a can of worms with that one. Gender dysphoria is a mental defect in my opinion. Thoughts?

Why should I have to wait a few days to buy a gun? What if I already own other guns? Why do a background check if I am still considered unfit to own a gun if I pass... for a few days?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The frogs are boiling…

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

REVEALED: Drones that swarmed US warships were from Hong Kong ship

The MV Bass Strait, a Hong Kong-registered cargo ship, is believed by the U.S. Navy to have followed at least two warships and launched drones overhead.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Do you want to ban video games, violent movies, and social media? Arming all the teacher's isn't feasible and they would be killed before they ever drew their gun (9 mm). What is your answer to solve this problem? Should we just accept our children being killed at school?

I'm not saying I know the answers but it's obviously not the gun that causing the issue...so why waste time on something that would likely have an unnoticeable effect...

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Haha Ukraine is using technicals:

Volga Sedan Turned Into Machine Gun-Toting Tactical Vehicle By Ukrainian Forces

This bizarre 'compact technical' belongs in Mad Max, sporting a remote-controlled heavy machine gun, giving it a big punch for its tiny size.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

What are you against raising the age to buy an AR-15 to 21? You have to be 21 to buy a pistol.

I don’t agree with having to be 21 to buy a pistol

What is the downside?

I have issues with my government telling me that at 18 I am adult enough to go to war and die with a rifle in my hands….. but not adult enough to own one when I’m just a regular citizen in my own country. There is nothing but downsides to letting the government decide

When 9/11 happened there were some changes made to the airplanes and the security checks that were required for people to fly on planes.

and a string of civil violations that followed it

If nothing changes then nothing will change. Sometimes the status quo needs to be tweaked

NO!

we should not respond to these events with emotionally charged knee jerk reactions and shitty policies that only trample on the rights of the vast majority of the country.

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

Do you want to ban video games, violent movies, and social media? Arming all the teacher's isn't feasible and they would be killed before they ever drew their gun (9 mm). What is your answer to solve this problem? Should we just accept our children being killed at school?

if ar15s get banned and it makes no difference….. do you think they will admit their failure and give us our guns back?

 

[powerlifter405]

It’s almost like Russia didn’t want COVID 2.0 “accidentally leaking” from one of these Ukrainian labs…

As much as I am not a fan of Communism in any way shape or form I think it was one of their reasons.
Ukraine does have a lot of resources as well, so it's a double win for the Russians if they obtained the land and that's why I keep saying over and over again do using small conventional bombs vs scorched earth.

A single nuclear EMP would be enough to take out all the Telecom, Vehicles Etc but at the same time that would take the petroleum plants and the nuclear plants offline.

I think it's more than the media is letting on and over the last 15 or so years I've taken particular note of how the media has "evolved." It's not about news it's all about ratings and sponsorship.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

As I sit back and see how this current presidential administration is raw dogging U.S. citizens by making us feel the pain of inflation and the high cost of gas and fuel I can see how they are lying to us and don't give a damn what they are doing to us. Then I see them helping Ukraine. Why? They must have something this administration wants. It must be in their best interest to help them or they wouldn't even bother. They are after something or have been promised something. What is in Ukraine that they want?? Has to be something big to risk Russian attack on the U.S. right?

 

[powerlifter405]

Guns are a protected right, but even rights can be regulated.
Witness Free Speech. Try using free speech that causes a panic in a public place.

Guns are not going anywhere, period. But some regulation is just common sense. Felon? No gun. Child? No gun. Mental defects? No gun.
Want a gun? Wait a few days. There is really no reason someone must have a gun same-day. A few days ain’t gonna ruin your life.

More common sense: allow guns to be carried everywhere. It’s not the sane people you need to worry about. It’s the nuts. And they obviously don’t give two shits about rules to begin with.
If 50% of the adults present at any mass shootings were armed, it’s a certainty that the casualty counts would have been lower, save for incidences like Vegas or distance shooters.

The problem with common sense is that it isn’t.

Guns are a protected right, but even rights can be regulated.
Witness Free Speech. Try using free speech that causes a panic in a public place.

Guns are not going anywhere, period. But some regulation is just common sense. Felon? No gun. Child? No gun. Mental defects? No gun.
Want a gun? Wait a few days. There is really no reason someone must have a gun same-day. A few days ain’t gonna ruin your life.

More common sense: allow guns to be carried everywhere. It’s not the sane people you need to worry about. It’s the nuts. And they obviously don’t give two shits about rules to begin with.
If 50% of the adults present at any mass shootings were armed, it’s a certainty that the casualty counts would have been lower, save for incidences like Vegas or distance shooters.

The problem with common sense is that it isn’t.

You made points that are mostly already in affect. In many states if you have your handgun permit they waive the wait time.
And there are recorded cases, usually women, requesting purchases but are murdered, ***** or beaten by exes.

There needs to be a societal shift where individual responsibility is Paramount. No free rides, no martyrs. Recognizing bad behavior, regardless of how protected, sets precedence upon how people and the originator respond.

Remember this. Media and liberals beat the 1st amendment drum.

Its in bad taste and irresponsible.

We know have people threatening Supreme Court Justices and pro-life under thr guide free speech.
Bad behavior is bad behavior and it shouldn't be tolerated. People can disagree but we should be able to argue each side and not walk away wanting to decapitate your fellow citizen.

1st step, bring back large scale mental institutions.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

As much as I am not a fan of Communism in any way shape or form I think it was one of their reasons.
Ukraine does have a lot of resources as well, so it's a double win for the Russians if they obtained the land and that's why I keep saying over and over again do using small conventional bombs vs scorched earth.

A single nuclear EMP would be enough to take out all the Telecom, Vehicles Etc but at the same time that would take the petroleum plants and the nuclear plants offline.

I think it's more than the media is letting on and over the last 15 or so years I've taken particular note of how the media has "evolved." It's not about news it's all about ratings and sponsorship.

A lot of western armor and craft and what not have a degree of EMP shielding.

 

[powerlifter405]

All forms of media are the problem nowadays it's all about generating Revenue..

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

All forms of media are the problem nowadays it's all about generating Revenue..View attachment 39249

OK. In your previous post you talked about personal responsibility, but now you want to say media is the problem.

I believe in personal responsibility. It’s why I am prepared to defend me and mine instead of waiting 20 minutes for a cop to be able to respond. But I also believe in the bigger picture that many if not most of us are not prepared or able.
We have EMTs, we have firefighters, we have police, we have roadside assistance, we have health, we have road crews. All exist because we are not all fully capable of fully independent life.

Laws are the same. They help to maintain sanity, and keep society moving forward. Most laws are based in common sense. Some are made for criminals. Do they necessarily stop criminals? Obviously not. But when they don’t, they allow for punishment (aside from prairie justice).

I’m a big advocate of gun ownership. I’m also an advocate for common sense laws regarding gun ownership AND of dealing with the real problem, which is people.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Mexico has extremely strict gun ownership laws and only 1 legal store to purchase a firearm at ( in the outskirts of Mexico city)...gun violence is still a thing...people who have it in their mind to commit horrible acts will find the means to act them out...so honestly more gun control laws are just for show more then anything else...especially since they revolve around AR-15's when by a large proportion, more mass shooting deaths/injuries are from handguns...I think the first step to preventing school shootings is to harden the schools until we as a society find where we're failing these kids committing the shootings...addressing the cause wou l d have far more real impact than more restrictions on the means...sadly all I hear from politicians is about the guns, not anything about something meaningful that might actually have an impact...frankly I (and I know I'm cynical here) think it's because pro or gun anti gun is a platform they can raise money on...it's along the same lines as barring a shitty carpenter from owning a hammer for building a house that collapsed...

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

You said 80% of Republicans. If they only polled 10 people that 80% is not a big number. Same with the teachers... if it's only a few then you shouldn't assume that "most teachers" in the United States don't want to carry. I can assume and guess too... let me try.

I am guessing that if you were in an active shooter situation you would be that guy hiding behind a tree and I would further assume you would be deep in prayer making deals with god if he just gets the police there faster right? You'd probably be the guy the press interviews where you would then complain that if Trump did more we wouldn't have these "gun crimes".

Hey, you're right... it is fun to guess and assume.

I have been in three active shooter situations. One when I was 12 one when I was about 30 and one when I was 49. You are right in assuming that I'm not going to run at a guy who is shooting if I'm outgunned and not wearing the right protection. It's easy for you to play Billy Bad *** when you've never been involved in one. They don't publish polls where they only ask 10 people. Even you know that. Republicans always with the fake news bullshitt. Show me a poll where Republicans are against universal background checks and raising the age to buy an AR-15 to 21. I'll wait.