does he not understand that it takes oil to make electric cars?
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He is using a flawed and incomplete argument, much like you pointing to gas and 2x4 prices as reflecting the entire state of the economy.
ThxOne
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I was speaking to the fact that you can't just flip a switch and do another thing when the majority is still dependent on the "the old way", that being gas vs electric cars.
Without fuel there is no energy.
Without fuel there is no transporting of goods.
Without fuel there is no working class.
Without fuel there is no economy.
People like Rob here think just because some market numbers are good that all is well in the world when in fact, it is not. You cannot make the price of fuel so high that everyone has to now adjust their prices way up to keep their profit margins. The working class, who makes the majority of these United States by the way, now suffers. The money that is entering the economy because of this inflation has to hit a wall and then you have a recession. People will have to budget what they will buy which means no more money pouring into the economy and you get to watch the markets crash. Then everything is fuucked.
You can't take away something without something to replace it with. You can't go green until you have everything in place to go green. Until that happens, fuel has to remain priced reasonably and readily available. When the cost of FUEL is low, the cost to transport goods is lower, the cost of goods is lower, people will buy more, the economy rebounds. It's not rocket science. When it comes to the greater good of the people you can't have these greedy politicians making a money grab so they can get rich as hell in four years while we all suffer.
How much money are they making and how much money is the working class spending. Put two and two together. No additional taxes on anyone making less than $400,000 a year... No one making less than $400,000 a year will pay a penny more. Inflation is a TAX on everyone. Do yourselves a favor, don't vote Democrat.
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ThxOne
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Is that all you got? "Stay mad bro!" Did you have a brief second between videos on your phone? Real pusssy feels better than jerkin off. Maybe let a real live girl touch it so you can grow up.Lmfao! Stay mad bro!
Such a weird path you take in a debate/discussion/argument. It’s like you follow a playbook.
Someone posted a link a while back to a video that describes argument styles, and many if not most of the key points were exactly what you do.
It was a really interesting video. Educational without being preachy.
Did you ever watch it?
I was speaking to the fact that you can't just flip a switch and do another thing when the majority is still dependent on the "the old way", that being gas vs electric cars.
Without fuel there is no energy.
Without fuel there is no transporting of goods.
Without fuel there is no working class.
Without fuel there is no economy.
People like Rob here think just because some market numbers are good that all is well in the world when in fact, it is not. You cannot make the price of fuel so high that everyone has to now adjust their prices way up to keep their profit margins. The working class, who makes the majority of these United States by the way, now suffers. The money that is entering the economy because of this inflation has to hit a wall and then you have a recession. People will have to budget what they will buy which means no more money pouring into the economy and you get to watch the markets crash. Then everything is fuucked.
Again, it's not "just some market numbers", it is the primary metrics of the US economy. You are using two examples (gas and lumber prices) to claim the economy is in the crapper, because ONE of those prices pust a small dent in your wallet, but is a great way to try and claim Biden is ruining our lives. Maybe you are not part of the bigger picture, but that is always the way. There is the majority, and there are outliers.
The MARKET is what is making the price of gas high, not some wizard behind a curtain. Like every other commodity on our planet, gas is affected by supply and demand, whether you want to beleive that or not.
I'm sorry, but Trump didn't wake up one morning and say "I am lowering the price of gas today." Demand collapsed and supply spiked due to the pandemic, which drove the price down. Irrefutable fact.
You can't take away something without something to replace it with. You can't go green until you have everything in place to go green. Until that happens, fuel has to remain priced reasonably and readily available. When the cost of FUEL is low, the cost to transport goods is lower, the cost of goods is lower, people will buy more, the economy rebounds. It's not rocket science. When it comes to the greater good of the people you can't have these greedy politicians making a money grab so they can get rich as hell in four years while we all suffer.
But you said above that you can't just flip a switch and do another thing. Now you say that everything should be in place before we try to go green. So, do you think we should get all the infrastructure in place and have all the vehicles ready to go first, then do a very fast phase-out of the old, and in with the new?
How long do the infrastructure and vehicles sit before we do the rapid phase-in?
You were barely born when it happened, but the change form leaded to unleaded case started in the 70's. It took until 1996 for leaded gas to be fully removed from the market. Because cars last longer than a year.
What is your solution for the people who have a 3 y.o. vehicle? Gov't subsidy for them to scrap it and "go green"? Or, do we stop producing/selling vehicles for X number of years, then make everyone switch over? or just make everyone take one for the team and ditch their vehicle for a new one?
How much money are they making and how much money is the working class spending. Put two and two together. No taxes on anyone making less than $400,000 a year... Inflation is a TAX on everyone. Do yourselves a favor, don't vote Democrat.
So, the people who make less than $400K a year should not have to pay for any of the services those taxes support? Like roads, emergency services, the military, air transportation, mail services, etc.
That's an interesting play. WHY should they not chip in? Do you think we should vote Republican so we can all be on welfare if we make less than a certain income? I know you just tossed a number out there, but it seems unreasonably high.
My income is nowhere near $400K and I am paying taxes, paying my bills, not crushed by a minor change in gas prices like you seem to be, and have money left over each paycheck. I figure I could make well under $100K and still live the same, and if I made $30K I would change my lifestyle as needed and still get by. $30K is the minimum wage that so may Republicans seem to hate, yet it is livable WITH taxes. yet, you want no taxes. Which side of that fence do you stand on?
And HOW do you consider inflation a tax?
All legit questions.
Without fuel there is no energy.
Without fuel there is no transporting of goods.
Without fuel there is no working class.
Without fuel there is no economy.
People like Rob here think just because some market numbers are good that all is well in the world when in fact, it is not. You cannot make the price of fuel so high that everyone has to now adjust their prices way up to keep their profit margins. The working class, who makes the majority of these United States by the way, now suffers. The money that is entering the economy because of this inflation has to hit a wall and then you have a recession. People will have to budget what they will buy which means no more money pouring into the economy and you get to watch the markets crash. Then everything is fuucked.
Again, it's not "just some market numbers", it is the primary metrics of the US economy. You are using two examples (gas and lumber prices) to claim the economy is in the crapper, because ONE of those prices pust a small dent in your wallet, but is a great way to try and claim Biden is ruining our lives. Maybe you are not part of the bigger picture, but that is always the way. There is the majority, and there are outliers.
The MARKET is what is making the price of gas high, not some wizard behind a curtain. Like every other commodity on our planet, gas is affected by supply and demand, whether you want to beleive that or not.
I'm sorry, but Trump didn't wake up one morning and say "I am lowering the price of gas today." Demand collapsed and supply spiked due to the pandemic, which drove the price down. Irrefutable fact.
You can't take away something without something to replace it with. You can't go green until you have everything in place to go green. Until that happens, fuel has to remain priced reasonably and readily available. When the cost of FUEL is low, the cost to transport goods is lower, the cost of goods is lower, people will buy more, the economy rebounds. It's not rocket science. When it comes to the greater good of the people you can't have these greedy politicians making a money grab so they can get rich as hell in four years while we all suffer.
But you said above that you can't just flip a switch and do another thing. Now you say that everything should be in place before we try to go green. So, do you think we should get all the infrastructure in place and have all the vehicles ready to go first, then do a very fast phase-out of the old, and in with the new?
How long do the infrastructure and vehicles sit before we do the rapid phase-in?
You were barely born when it happened, but the change form leaded to unleaded case started in the 70's. It took until 1996 for leaded gas to be fully removed from the market. Because cars last longer than a year.
What is your solution for the people who have a 3 y.o. vehicle? Gov't subsidy for them to scrap it and "go green"? Or, do we stop producing/selling vehicles for X number of years, then make everyone switch over? or just make everyone take one for the team and ditch their vehicle for a new one?
How much money are they making and how much money is the working class spending. Put two and two together. No taxes on anyone making less than $400,000 a year... Inflation is a TAX on everyone. Do yourselves a favor, don't vote Democrat.
So, the people who make less than $400K a year should not have to pay for any of the services those taxes support? Like roads, emergency services, the military, air transportation, mail services, etc.
That's an interesting play. WHY should they not chip in? Do you think we should vote Republican so we can all be on welfare if we make less than a certain income? I know you just tossed a number out there, but it seems unreasonably high.
My income is nowhere near $400K and I am paying taxes, paying my bills, not crushed by a minor change in gas prices like you seem to be, and have money left over each paycheck. I figure I could make well under $100K and still live the same, and if I made $30K I would change my lifestyle as needed and still get by. $30K is the minimum wage that so may Republicans seem to hate, yet it is livable WITH taxes. yet, you want no taxes. Which side of that fence do you stand on?
And HOW do you consider inflation a tax?
All legit questions.
ThxOne
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Like I give a shit.
ThxOne
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I don't care for your views on these subjects. You are biased with one goal... Argue. I am not interested.
ThxOne
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No NEW taxes you literal fuucking assshole. God damn, just go fuuck yourself.
ThxOne
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LOL Hunters laptop is real and all you people were like Trump Trump Trump, conspiracy theories and blah blah blah. Turns out everyone lied about the laptop to cover it up. #winning lolololol.
Once again, you don’t even know what YOU say, and expect others to figure it out for you.
The perfect example of a really dumb person who can affect our country with his vote.
“How much money are they making and how much money is the working class spending. Put two and two together. No taxes on anyone making less than $400,000 a year... Inflation is a TAX on everyone.”
Looking forward to the response that this is taken out of context or is not an actual quote of your words.
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*******, mathematics is not “views” or “thoughts” or “feelings”.
Just because basic math is beyond your scope of abilities, that does not reduce it to anything less than hard facts.
ThxOne
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I literally left out one word. Leave it to a low life like you to point it out endlessly. Fuuck off idiot. You know what Biden said about taxes on people making less than $400,000 a year so stop being a faag.
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