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[RobGMN Premium Member]

It's actually quite a huge problem. The blades of wind turbines hit birds, and solar panels burn birds from the heat concentration/reflections.

Oh brother.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Oh brother.

You don’t care about the birds?

 

[SlugButter]

Solar panels don’t hurt birds at all. You’re talking about the curved mirrors that concentrate sunlight onto a water pipe to create steam. There are a few different types of the solar heat steam generators.

 

[SlugButter]

The green energy grid needs to be in individual residences and businesses. There is no need fo a power plant or field full of solar panels any more. Individual homes and businesses could create more than they need and energize the grid on their own. The old school thinking of power plants and electric companies is for corporate control, and the Dems subsidies for green energy is almost entirely corporate. They are going to ruin a good idea, like usual. The Dems are always good about pointing out problems, but their solutions to problems aware always a joke.

 

[mahc 10+ year member]

The green energy grid needs to be in individual residences and businesses. There is no need fo a power plant or field full of solar panels any more. Individual homes and businesses could create more than they need and energize the grid on their own. The old school thinking of power plants and electric companies is for corporate control, and the Dems subsidies for green energy is almost entirely corporate. They are going to ruin a good idea, like usual. The Dems are always good about pointing out problems, but their solutions to problems aware always a joke.

Again... there's no such thing as green energy. The manufacturing and disposal of solar panels are polluting processes and generate toxic waste. Same thing for the energy storage system required. There's just no way around it.

 

[SlugButter]

Again... there's no such thing as green energy. The manufacturing and disposal of solar panels are polluting processes and generate toxic waste. Same thing for the energy storage system required. There's just no way around it.

It wouldn’t be completely neutral to the environment, but most of it could be recycled. And they don’t “generate toxic waste”. It takes toxic chemicals to create it, no doubt. My big motivator is for individual freedom and control of your own energy. There are a ton of advantages to creating generation of electricity distributed with no power plant. The political arguments are just nonsense and void of any real debate of facts and ideas.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Idk, large amounts of solar panels concentrated in an area can cause excessive heat in that area. My larger point is that there's technology that fundamentally works with deeper physics that's essentially been made illegal by our overlords.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You don’t care about the birds?

I watch birds fly through stands of old-growth trees at full speed and not clip a wing. I’ve seen them go through holes in chain link fences at full bore.
Any bird that is incapable of avoiding a 120 foot propeller that gives off a VERY audible (to them) sonic warning is a bird that will be the first killed by a predator.

If you want to virtue signal about the environmental impact of wind farms, complain about the ground that they are attached to that used to be grass and is now concrete.

Trump sounded like an idiot blaming cancer and bird deaths on wind farms.
So do you.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I watch birds fly through stands of trees at fu speed and not clip a wing. I’ve seen them go through chain link fences at full bore.
Any bird that is incapable of avoiding a 120 foot propeller that gives off a VERY audible (to them) sonic warning is a bird that will be the first killed by a predator.

If you want to virtue signal about the environmental impact if wind farms, complain about the ground that they are attached to that used to be grass and is now concrete.

Trump sounded like an idiot blaming cancer and bird deaths on wind farms.
So do you.

What's fu speed?

Those blades are moving at a very fast speed at the tip.

I'm not virtue signalling, you f*ggot. I'm simply stating that solar farms and wind farms are far from green and non-hazardous to the environment.

I have nothing to do with Trump. Trump has your delusional rear end under mind control. Can't get Trump out of your head, can you?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

You make me want to support Trump just to piss you off LOL

 

[SlugButter]

Idk, large amounts of solar panels concentrated in an area can cause excessive heat in that area. My larger point is that there's technology that fundamentally works with deeper physics that's essentially been made illegal by our overlords.

I don’t like the solar fields idea, but they don’t cause extra heat. The mirror systems do, but only power companies use those. The chemical reaction that creates electricity in solar panels actually works best under 70 degrees. The colder the better. Lithium-sulfur will probably replace lithium-ion batteries for these systems. Disposal and creation of batteries is a drawback to solar energy.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I don’t like the solar fields idea, but they don’t cause extra heat. The mirror systems do, but only power companies use those. The chemical reaction that creates electricity in solar panels actually works best under 70 degrees. The colder the better. Lithium-sulfur will probably replace lithium-ion batteries for these systems. Disposal and creation of batteries is a drawback to solar energy.

Still my point stands that solar panels and wind farms are nothing compared to what's out there.

Pyramids are real energy sources.

 

[SlugButter]

Still my point stands that solar panels and wind farms are nothing compared to what's out there.

Pyramids are real energy sources.

We don’t know how to use pyramids yet. The pyramid theory would require the use wireless AC, and the most scientific progress made that we have on paper were the Tesla towers and Tesla coils. We use wireless AC to charge cell phones now. You could make a road charge a car as it’s driving in theory. This is why I think electricity is the future. It’s not just about the politics of climate change, it’s just better. Using 100 year old technology like gasoline to create a resource like electricity that can exist in a much cheaper and easier way should be the goal. The politics just corrupts the debate.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

We don’t know how to use pyramids yet. The pyramid theory would require the use wireless AC, and the most scientific progress made that we have on paper were the Tesla towers and Tesla coils. We use wireless AC to charge cell phones now. You could make a road charge a car as it’s driving in theory. This is why I think electricity is the future. It’s not just about the politics of climate change, it’s just better. Using 100 year old technology like gasoline to create a resource like electricity, that can exist in a much cheaper and easier way should be the goal. The politics just corrupts the debate.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

It's not really AC current. It's scalar energy.