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[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

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Doosey is a boss.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Doosey is a boss.

Indeed

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Found the first problem:

‘according to the Council on Foreign Relations.’

International /= World

“World leaders created a series of international organizations and agreements to promote global cooperation on issues including security, trade, health, and monetary policy,” CFR writes. “The United States has championed this system — known as the liberal world order — for the past seventy-five years. During this time, the world has enjoyed unprecedented peace and prosperity.”

Yep. That scary cooperation towards mutual success.
Vile stuff.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

“World leaders created a series of international organizations and agreements to promote global cooperation on issues including security, trade, health, and monetary policy,” CFR writes. “The United States has championed this system — known as the liberal world order — for the past seventy-five years. During this time, the world has enjoyed unprecedented peace and prosperity.”

Yep. That scary cooperation towards mutual success.
Vile stuff.

Do you actually know anything? CFR is those people who helped sell our country out

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Do you actually know anything? CFR is those people who helped sell our country out

Is the explanation of “liberal world order” accurate, or not?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Is the explanation of “liberal world order” accurate, or not?

No, I don’t think so. The world is the world. Who’s to say other nations need to be part of the Liberal World Order? Are we gonna take over the world and force people under this belief system? Sounds a bit fascist, just fundamentally, to me.

Where in US law does it say this is what we’re doing?

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

No, I don’t think so. The world is the world. Who’s to say other nations need to be part of the Liberal World Order? Are we gonna take over the world and force people under this belief system? Sounds a bit fascist, just fundamentally, to me.

Where in US law does it say this is what we’re doing?

A bunch of nations working together toward mutually beneficial common goals is fascist? What do you call a bunch of states that do same? What about a group of individuals, such as trade unions?

 

[SlugButter]

A bunch of nations working together toward mutually beneficial common goals is fascist? What do you call a bunch of states that do same? What about a group of individuals, such as trade unions?

Wouldn't the most efficient way to handle world problems be a world wide government? An end to nationalism and eventually and end to the main reason to conduct war in the first place? If we deny our governing bodies worldwide are going that direction than we have no control over how the world legislature grows. Thats a mistake. Fascism grows within a government body, it isn't just a separate entity that can't happen within a democracy. The world is transitioning into a worldwide governing body slowly over time. We should pay attention to it.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Wouldn't the most efficient way to handle world problems be a world wide government? An end to nationalism and eventually and end to the main reason to conduct war in the first place? If we deny our governing bodies worldwide are going that direction than we have no control over how the world legislature grows. Thats a mistake. Fascism grows within a government body, it isn't just a separate entity that can't happen within a democracy. The world is transitioning into a worldwide governing body slowly over time. We should pay attention to it.

We should definitely pay attention to how the world operates. It's the fear that fascist are behind every thing that happens that's whack.

 

[SlugButter]

We should definitely pay attention to how the world operates. It's the fear that fascist are behind every thing that happens that's whack.

Ever since Hitler pretended that fascism was democracy, and succeeded in convincing good hard working Germans that it was, it’s a fear. The first goal of fascism is to control speech and public image. Fascism is a virus that infects democracy and slowly takes it hostage over time. It’s sneaky and hides in plain sight. It is implemented willingly by the public while wearing a mask of good intentions and benevolent ends. That’s the danger of fascism. Russia is a fascist state within communism for instance. Fascism isn’t a government by itself, it’s a parasite that takes down a host from the inside.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Ever since Hitler pretended that fascism was democracy, and succeeded in convincing good hard working Germans that it was, it’s a fear. The first goal of fascism is to control speech and public image. Fascism is a virus that infects democracy and slowly takes it hostage over time. It’s sneaky and hides in plain sight. It is implemented willingly by the public while wearing a mask of good intentions and benevolent ends. That’s the danger of fascism. Russia is a fascist state within communism for instance. Fascism isn’t a government by itself, it’s a parasite that takes down a host from the inside.

I'd say all govt's are "fascist" to some extent - ie a doctor whose clinic just got shut down due to new abortion laws would consider his state fascist, anti-women, etc. I like to say we all have a little bit of fascism in us, it's just what brings it out. That said, I certainly don't think we have to worry that every time nations of the world cooperate for the greater that there is some sort hidden fascist agenda behind it, which is what many would like us to believe.

As far as Russia goes, it's a fascist state, it certainly isn't a communist state (neither is China); the accumulation of wealth into the hands of so few is incompatible with a true socialist/communist state.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

A bunch of nations working together toward mutually beneficial common goals is fascist? What do you call a bunch of states that do same? What about a group of individuals, such as trade unions?

World Order does not equate to International Order. Those are two different ideologies.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'd say all govt's are "fascist" to some extent - ie a doctor whose clinic just got shut down due to new abortion laws would consider his state fascist, anti-women, etc. I like to say we all have a little bit of fascism in us, it's just what brings it out. That said, I certainly don't think we have to worry that every time nations of the world cooperate for the greater that there is some sort hidden fascist agenda behind it, which is what many would like us to believe.

As far as Russia goes, it's a fascist state, it certainly isn't a communist state (neither is China); the accumulation of wealth into the hands of so few is incompatible with a true socialist/communist state.

Is the United Nations fascist? What about NATO?