Why?

[Warbleed 10+ year member]

They both matter. You cannot possibly venture a guess or compare the inductance of one or more drivers without knowing BOTH the length AND the number of layers, as well as the wire gauge.

Neither a short fat coil nor a long thin coil are going to have a high inductance, given the same wire gauge.

Also remember than a 4 layer roundwire and an 8 layer flatwire have the SAME amount of wire in them. Why? Simple. If you FLATTEN a piece of wire, it will take up more surface area, and thus require more layers for a given winding length.

 

[bigbassman Premium Member]

well we're both right... and we're both wrong...

we win!

Loyd L.

 

[Nikuk 5,000+ posts]

.....Also remember than a 4 layer roundwire and an 8 layer flatwire have the SAME amount of wire in them. Why? Simple. If you FLATTEN a piece of wire, it will take up more surface area, and thus require more layers for a given winding length.

Which is one of the things that digs at me on occasion: If 4layer round is relative to 8 layer flat with no variance... then why do it? Given same winding length on the former... you are going to have more mass but the same electrical properties?

*edit*

Surface area for cooling purposes... I can't see that being right though. Epoxy will negate that.

 

[Nikuk 5,000+ posts]

well we're both right... and we're both wrong...
we win!

Loyd L.

I'm not trying to win... trying to understand.

....and honestly, I'm surprised that this seed is sprouting at all, here.

Nick

 

[bigbassman Premium Member]

....and honestly, I'm surprised that this seed is sprouting at all, here.

Nick

you're not the only one man... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Loyd L.

 

[Nikuk 5,000+ posts]

you're not the only one man... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Loyd L.

Alright.... your AIM > My AIM.

Quality... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Diplexers 10+ year member]

They need to understand the basics before they can understand the underlying physics of "why". Can't teach someone about Le if they have no idea (or very, very little) of what a VC even is, or how a speaker truly works.

Amen,.......you can't jump into Calculus with out learning to add and subtract first.

Edit: To the original poster. Come on, the real reason you asked these questions iis to sound intelligent.

 

[DJ Jester 10+ year member]

It seems to me ( and I promise that I don't intend any sarcasm here ) that if there are people on this forum who are interested in talking about the physical and electromagnetic properties of a speaker, then they should start threads which actually discuss such issues instead of starting threads complaining about the lack thereof.

I am an engineering major and would love to discuss some of these issues and would really be interested to hear some fresh ideas about ways to improve speakers in general.

Surely there are enough people on this forum that if someone started a thread about a particular topic, that at least a few knowledgeable people would be able to chime in...........and hopefully the newbies would just stay away or keep their mouths shut.

Maybe they could even dedicate a new section of the forum to the technological aspects of speaker design, system design, wave physics, and and how properties of sound apply to car audio.

The only way to improve the board, as well as make people smarter in general is to spread the knowledge which has been given to you.

Try it out and see what happens. It may work, may not.

Jester