Why all the hate on W7's?

[LVZ2PND 10+ year member]

hell yeah i do all the time

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

Gonna have to disagree with you on everything except the whole RE thing (which I'm also very skeptical about)
You might feel that the TDX is just as good, but the W7 does have advantages over it and is capable of playing cleaner and louder technically. Same goes for pretty much all other SQL woofers out there except for the new XXX.

I would dissagree..They are very close having heard both

and liking both I didnt hear an advantage to the W7

They both sound great,but my TDX's cost me 600 or so for 3 12s BNIB on an Ebay deal

& no way I cant get a W7 in that price range becuase of all the nuthuggers and high retail pricing....

And I dont understand your statments of Louder and cleaner TECHNICALLY

either it is or it isnt

 

[DiDan 10+ year member]

i didnt like the sound of a 13w7 in a closed box at all. no SQ in my opinion. but it was loud as hell for a closed box.

IMHO you can get better subs for the money. the 13w7 retails here in germany for 1350 euros = $1715 (current conversion 1 euro = 1.27 USD) !!!!!

DiDan

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

I would dissagree..They are very close having heard bothand liking both I didnt hear an advantage to the W7

They both sound great,but my TDX's cost me 600 or so for 3 12s BNIB on an Ebay deal

& no way I cant get a W7 in that price range becuase of all the nuthuggers and high retail pricing....

And I dont understand your statments of Louder and cleaner TECHNICALLY

either it is or it isnt

Yea, I'll agree with you that you can find better values than the W7 (the TDX being one of them.)

However, notice I said the word capable. If you put both these subs in their optimal sealed box with optimal power, the W7 will play louder and cleaner. I'm not saying you'll like the sound more, I'm saying it will play more loyal to the recording. Thats what I meant by technically.

 

[SAG3 5,000+ posts]

its Because of you

I never stray too far from the sidewalk

Because of you

I learned to play on the safe side so I don't get hurt

Because of you

I find it hard to trust not only me, but everyone around me

Because of you

I am afraid

I lose my way

And it's not too long before you point it out

I cannot cry

Because I know that's weakness in your eyes

I'm forced to fake

A smile, a laugh everyday of my life

My heart can't possibly break

When it wasn't even whole to start with

Because of you

I never stray too far from the sidewalk

Because of you

I learned to play on the safe side so I don't get hurt

Because of you

I find it hard to trust not only me, but everyone around me

Because of you

I am afraid

I watched you die

I heard you cry every night in your sleep

I was so young

You should have known better than to lean on me

You never thought of anyone else

You just saw your pain

And now I cry in the middle of the night

For the same **** thing

Because of you

I never stray too far from the sidewalk

Because of you

I learned to play on the safe side so I don't get hurt

Because of you

I try my hardest just to forget everything

Because of you

I don't know how to let anyone else in

Because of you

I'm ashamed of my life because it's empty

Because of you

I am afraid

Because of you

Because of you

 

[regal8r 5,000+ posts]

It seems like they are the benchmark for high end subs. A point of comparison. So why do they get crap all the time? Is it just because of the price?

bc u touch urself at nite

lmao, but seriously, i think its the price. they are awesome woofers but too expensive for my taste

 

[Spooby 10+ year member]

I've had 12W7's, and the W6 always sounded better //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

i love w7's. and now i have kelly clarkson stuck in my head. she is holding a w7 and singing to me.

thanks sag

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

i dont like them because;

A. the hype. i dont appriciate people who do not know what they are talking about pretending to know what they are talking about because they paid somone a lot of money.

B. the cost. JL charges way too much for the speaker. but then again, equipment is worth what you pay isnt it?

C. three ohm SVC or DVC. its not a huge deal, but im not a fan. id rather just see it plain dual 4ohm or single 4 ohm. just like all the other speakers around, but its kind of nice if you only run one on a 1ohm stable amp. get a trickle more power to them.

D. the mounting rings. i hate to be a weirdo - it is a cool idea, but way to impractical on a sub of this weight\size. im sure they could have just made some pretty screwholes instead of that easily breakable mounting ring.

otherwise, they are graet speakers with the right installation.

 

[Pyro_By_Nature 5,000+ posts]

i dont like them because;
A. the hype. i dont appriciate people who do not know what they are talking about pretending to know what they are talking about because they paid somone a lot of money.

B. the cost. JL charges way too much for the speaker. but then again, equipment is worth what you pay isnt it?

C. three ohm SVC or DVC. its not a huge deal, but im not a fan. id rather just see it plain dual 4ohm or single 4 ohm. just like all the other speakers around, but its kind of nice if you only run one on a 1ohm stable amp. get a trickle more power to them.

D. the mounting rings. i hate to be a weirdo - it is a cool idea, but way to impractical on a sub of this weight\size. im sure they could have just made some pretty screwholes instead of that easily breakable mounting ring.

otherwise, they are graet speakers with the right installation.

A: Just because a n00b praises a product, doesn't make it crappy.I mean, look at the majority of the members of this forum and RE.Enough said there.

B: Two words: Custom Tooling

C: The 3 ohm SVC was claimed to be part of the design phase for sound quality.

D: Their current system is actually pretty creative.Allows them to get a little more cone area in.Looks a lot cleaner too IMHO.

 

[smd4life 5,000+ posts]

the way they mount is flat out bad asss imo

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

KellyClarkson FTW

even though she didnt write it

 

[SAG3 5,000+ posts]

 

[Spooby 10+ year member]

What does she have to do with a W7? Did she sing about one?

 

[Crown_amps]

funky pup > w7 every time