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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I can agree with that but Large companies making billions need to be taxed more instead of finding loop holes that make them exempt from paying any taxes (See GE). I just read that Exxon made (net) $45 billion last year IIRC and are on track to make 50% more this year because of oil prices. I think they can afford to pay more. They legally gouge us at the pumps so the Government should should gouge them on taxes.

I do believe in big companies being taxed more. Not the individual people that work for the company, but the companies as a whole.

Large companies are selfish, and overcharge for everything they sell. That's not right.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

can't for ppl to buy american products especially when american products are usually inferior. would you rather drive a Chevy Malibu or a 5 series BMW? how about a TV would you rather a RCA tv or a Samsung? America doesn't make that much any more and the little that is made here usually isn't that good of quality compared to other things in the same market. America is a cheap country, we want everything dirt cheap. why do jobs get outsourced or products go from being american made to chinese made? b/c no one will pay retail. it all starts with retail, why pay retail for an american made product when I can pay wholesale for a chinese made product.

I agree with this statement. I think we need to support American businesses and not foreign businesses. The U.S. needs to become as independent as it can be.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

I think there is a balance that needs to be reached, and I think the federal government has too much control at this point in time.
And where did I say lower taxes for the top 10% earners? I said for everyone. And by everyone, I meant everyone.

Are you drinking/high on something? Because you keep coming to conclusions that I didn't make. It's also easier to convince people of your point if you say "cool" instead of "kul".

and what would that balance be?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

and what would that balance be?

I don't think that can be answered until we get there, unfortunately.

 

[Phoenix Risen 10+ year member]

The U.S. needs to become as independent as it once was.

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[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

I agree with this statement. I think we need to support American businesses and not foreign businesses. The U.S. needs to become as independent as it can be.

agreed but it's gonna start with killing off the senate and house of representatives so we can get younger more open ppl in office instead of these crazy old ppl that are currently in office.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

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This fix is Buck approved.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

I don't think that can be answered until we get there, unfortunately.

personally I'd like a flat tax for everyone and than a business tax for corporations. this will make the tax system equal to everyone and promote more business ownership and less W2'ers.

 

[Phoenix Risen 10+ year member]

agreed but it's gonna start with killing off the senate and house of representatives so we can get younger more open ppl in office instead of these crazy old ppl that are currently in office.

as well as bringing the pay for elected offices way down. to the point where money is not a reason to do the job, if that would happen the people in office would actually be there for the good of the country not the good of their bank accounts.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

agreed but it's gonna start with killing off the senate and house of representatives so we can get younger more open ppl in office instead of these crazy old ppl that are currently in office.

I don't disagree with that, but I'm afraid that the selfish based society that America has become that most of the replacements will be there for self gain and not for the good of the country.

I don't think it's necessarily younger people, but people that are willing to stand for something greater than themselves.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

personally I'd like a flat tax for everyone and than a business tax for corporations. this will make the tax system equal to everyone and promote more business ownership and less W2'ers.

I'm glad we are finally agreeing on a few things.

I'm not 100% sure how business taxes work, but I think once you get over a certain income per year, that you reach a new class of business, therefore your level of taxes go up. That way when a business starts out, there aren't as much taxes so it's easier to grow, but the taxes increase to control the company from getting to big (kind of like a monopoly), and it keeps prices reasonable within the country, which then stimulates the economy.

 

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as well as bringing the pay for elected offices way down. to the point where money is not a reason to do the job, if that would happen the people in office would actually be there for the good of the country not the good of their bank accounts.

This to the infinity.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

as well as bringing the pay for elected offices way down. to the point where money is not a reason to do the job, if that would happen the people in office would actually be there for the good of the country not the good of their bank accounts.

I don't disagree with that, but I'm afraid that the selfish based society that America has become that most of the replacements will be there for self gain and not for the good of the country.
I don't think it's necessarily younger people, but people that are willing to stand for something greater than themselves.

true, true. I do think that there should be a term limit on all elected officials as well as no pension for elected officials. elected officials should only be paid whatever is the countries median income with no adjustments for living.

 

[Chriszle 10+ year member]

The problem with the country at this point is that very few people control the vast majority of the wealth in the nation. The fact that they control the money means they control the lobbyists, as well as the canditates which they are able to buy. Whoever has the most money, is the voice that gets heard by the politicians in many cases. It really doesn't even matter if a democrat or republican is president because the trend has contiuned for the past 20 plus years of the middle class shrinking while more and more people get pushed to one side of the spectrum or the other. History tells us that a disappearing middle class will eventually lead to the destruction of a society no matter how great it is. I am not saying we are condemened, but if things continue, the outlook is bleak to say the least.

 

[Chriszle 10+ year member]

A flat tax rate might work, but the fact is there is no way the wealthiest people in the country will allow that to pass. They have enough funds to buy the votes they need, to save themselves money in the long run. One of the flaws of a capitalistic society, is when the ones who have more then they need are greedy and decide they need even more then they have, others will end up with less then they need, because there is only so much.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

I'm glad we are finally agreeing on a few things.
I'm not 100% sure how business taxes work, but I think once you get over a certain income per year, that you reach a new class of business, therefore your level of taxes go up. That way when a business starts out, there aren't as much taxes so it's easier to grow, but the taxes increase to control the company from getting to big (kind of like a monopoly), and it keeps prices reasonable within the country, which then stimulates the economy.

 

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This to the infinity.

well the current tax code is built like this but there are too many loopholes to get around this. perfect example, if an employee eats a business dinner he pays for it with after tax dollars. if a corporation does a dinner it pays for it with before tax dollars and is taxed on what's left over. this is punishment for being an employee. currently the tax code makes it beneficial to be a corporation, it just doesn't make the market fair.