Who knows about ATVs

[chinny 5,000+ posts]

I dont think so. I am a big ATV rider. I have ridden both and each has their advantages. But I do beleive that the Raptor is the better choice.

So if i get a raptor 660 i can be on the street and on the mudd and i wont be so slow..

 

[Abel 10+ year member]

Well i want to go mudding but i dont want to get one of those utilitie ATV's like the ones u use for a farm..

Get a Yamaha Wolverine

 

[cheeseburger35 10+ year member]

a 700r is actually only a 686 and is 10x better than the 660r... if you want to mud but still be fast a raptor would be the best best.. plus it has reverse... banshee's are faster but since they're two strokes they can be tempermental.. and they really don't like water... i have a yamaha yfz which like abel said.. it flat *** whoop a raptor.. but it doesn't have reverse and the added torque that a raptor has would be better for the mud

p.s. don't anyone ever tell you that yfz's can't mud.. lol i rid with 4x4 quads and rarely get stuck.. and if i do.. hell they have a winch lol

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

Well i want to go mudding but i dont want to get one of those utilitie ATV's like the ones u use for a farm..

I am just warning you now. You buy a raptor or banshee and take it in the mud you had better be prepaired to spend lots of money to fix it. It WILL break. Even faster in the mud.

 

[Abel 10+ year member]

I am just warning you now. You buy a raptor or banshee and take it in the mud you had better be prepaired to spend lots of money to fix it. It WILL break. Even faster in the mud.

That is true for the Banshee but not for the Raptor

 

[vosschs 5,000+ posts]

a 700r is actually only a 686 and is 10x better than the 660r... if you want to mud but still be fast a raptor would be the best best.. plus it has reverse... banshee's are faster but since they're two strokes they can be tempermental.. and they really don't like water... i have a yamaha yfz which like abel said.. it flat *** whoop a raptor.. but it doesn't have reverse and the added torque that a raptor has would be better for the mud

p.s. don't anyone ever tell you that yfz's can't mud.. lol i rid with 4x4 quads and rarely get stuck.. and if i do.. hell they have a winch lol

like i was gonna say, if your going to spend the money spend the extra 1000 and get a YFZ, they will be faster than the raptor, 450R and a predator, 450 r would be the biggest challenge, and they can go through allot of mud for how they are built, im sure you know your not gonna be able to go through 3 ft of mud/water with it , but you will need a big atv to accomplish that

 

[vosschs 5,000+ posts]

edit double post

 

[chinny 5,000+ posts]

im kinda leaning towards a raptor 660r

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

That is true for the Banshee but not for the Raptor

It is also true for ALL bikes //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Mud is relentless. It gets in your barings, seals, bushings, everything. If it gets in the air box even once, be prepaired to spend some money.

I know what I am talking about.

 

[chinny 5,000+ posts]

It is also true for ALL bikes //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
Mud is relentless. It gets in your barings, seals, bushings, everything. If it gets in the air box even once, be prepaired to spend some money.

I know what I am talking about.

Now your scaring me lol.... i want to mud alot man, so the raptor 660r be a good candidate?

What about a Blaster?

 

[cheeseburger35 10+ year member]

mod for mod a yfz is faster than a 450r.. hands down

FACTS:

yfz has twin cams which are better than the single cam of the 450r because it likes to rev better

yfz has higher compression --- more compression=more power

yfz has a higher revlimiter

you can do the "cam-mod" on the yfz which is just retarding the timing on the exhaust cam and it will gain 1.7hp on a dyno.. i've seen it myself..

plus it has e-start.. vs the 450r is kick only..

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

Now your scaring me lol.... i want to mud alot man, so the raptor 660r be a good candidate?
What about a Blaster?

You have a better chance with the raptor, but if you are serious about mudding you will go for a utility ATV with a wench and big wheel kit.

Some of the new utility bikes are capable of 65+MPH //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I wouldnt call them slow.

 

[vosschs 5,000+ posts]

Now your scaring me lol.... i want to mud alot man, so the raptor 660r be a good candidate?
What about a Blaster?

if you want to save the money, go for it, **** 2 stroke, go YFZ, but if you want a weedeater engine ....

 

[cheeseburger35 10+ year member]

raptors are fine for the mud, and so are yfz's... just keep up with the maintence... ie, change oil, keep filter clean, grease it, lube your chain, check all seals and bearings after getting into water/mud..

 

[vosschs 5,000+ posts]

raptors are fine for the mud, and so are yfz's... just keep up with the maintence... ie, change oil, keep filter clean, grease it, lube your chain, check all seals and bearings after getting into water/mud..

add in there, know how to use the clutch right, many people around here **** *** at it