Who is a real true SQ devotee and what does it mean to you?

[Alpine4life89 10+ year member]

I can appreciate both, but i am an SQ guy, I don't really know how anyone can stand riding around with their trunk rattling like crazy pissing people off.

 

[dvrmstrng 5,000+ posts]

That's just not true.
It's about the investment of time and thought put into installation and tuning, not the equipment. Sure, if you want to chase that last 5% of what's possible, it might be nutty, but the same can be said if you're wanting to get into the 160s...

Unfortunately, the crowd of people who like to "be heard" have given all of mobile audio a pretty bad name to even the rest of the audio hobby. A lot of people in home audio have a pretty dim view of what's possible in a vehicle, even if they're willing to spend $40k+ on a 2-channel setup at home.

my setup sounds great with good quality audio (FLAC) and wasnt expensive at all....7" Dayton mids were cheap, blaupunkt tweeters were cheap...two ID8s were cheap as well. The head unit (7200MKII) was a little more to help with tuning, and a solid install makes for a car that sounds better than ill say 75% of cars out there.

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

It comes down to the difference between listening to music and experiencing sound. Those who enjoy music will always migrate toward a system that allows them to hear more than the bottom octaves.

 

[frkkevin 10+ year member]

Orion what?
I don't think bass kills a front stage. You can do a monster substage paired with a comparable front stage but most people on here don't seem to have the resources for that. So usually tons of money and time gets thrown at the substage, much less time and money get thrown and the front stage. And they call it SQ.

Key to SQ is to reproduce the recording.. as it was recorded.. What type of music is recorded bass heavy? none, just fake reproduction or creation in music like rap where it is suppose to be bass heavy

There is a fine line in definition.. A system can sound loud and clear... and have a loud substage..

When I'm talking about actual "SQ".. I'm talking about the clarity and balance as well as staging and imaging.

And yesa lot of SQ cars will have a good soundstage.. this is because when competing sometimes there is an SPL portion for gained points.. during judging though there is normally a completely different substage in effect

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

How I define SQ is the ability of the system to reproduce music as close to the original recording as possible, then deflate from that position as people try to over exaggerate warmth, treble, and bass ect.....

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

Key to SQ is to reproduce the recording.. as it was recorded..

How would one recognize the sound, as it was recorded, without mastering the record?

What type of music is recorded bass heavy? none,

Reggae comes to mind immediately.

...just fake reproduction or creation in music like rap where it is suppose to be bass heavy

Huh? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

I went to an local sq comp last week and i wasn't that impress by anything. I'd take my system over anyone else one there.... with their mc intosh headunit and audison processing

The Sq guys were impress by the overall tonality of my system and by how poor my staging was. I just need to work on that, but its not like if the staging was THAT important when i'm listening to hip-hop pretty much 90% of the time

to me, sq is relative to what sound good to your earing... and not missing a single line down low in the substage

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

...its not like if the staging was THAT important when i'm listening to hip-hop pretty much 90% of the time

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What makes Hip-Hop different than every other musical genre?

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

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What makes Hip-Hop different than every other musical genre?

well the instrumental aren't really "live" and "localized" in a paticular way on the stage.

beside that... i don't know .... but we all know hip-hop and "SQ" aren't best friends, plus i'm listening to mp3s most of the time, so compression ain't sq friendly either

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

well the instrumental aren't really "live"...

What does that mean?

...and "localized" in a paticular way on the stage.

Of course they are. How would you know, anyway, when you lack a system capable of extracting and projecting spacial information? The claim is ridiculous.

beside that... i don't know .... but we all know hip-hop and "SQ" aren't best friends...

Who's "we?" A few wankers on a car audio forum who haven't heard shit? What gets me is that you like Hip-Hop. FWIW, I like some Hip-Hop, too. Even if I didn't care for the genre, much like my personal distaste for the Classical and Baroque periods, it wouldn't mean that the music, itself, shouldn't be reproduced well. That would be silly.

 

[Trey803 5,000+ posts]

When I think of sound quality I think of Imaging, equalization, and crossover points/slopes

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

I dabbled with an SQ set up last year and honestly while I enjoyed it the listening experience wasn't greatly enhanced just because the stage was wide, centered, and bass was up front, blended with my mids, etc...

Putting all the focus on those things takes away from just enjoying the music, at least for me. I also don't follow the mantra of "how the artist intended" as it's my ears I'm trying to please, so I tune to make it sound good to me. I listen to a lot of rock/metal and want my kick drums to have some serious thump at times.

Missed a chance to sit in a few SQ cars at a comp recently, but hopefully I'll get to before the year is over as I still want to experience what it's all about.

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

What does that mean?


Of course they are. How would you know, anyway, when you lack a system capable of extracting and projecting spacial information? The claim is ridiculous.

Who's "we?" A few wankers on a car audio forum who haven't heard shit? What gets me is that you like Hip-Hop. FWIW, I like some Hip-Hop, too. Even if I didn't care for the genre, much like my personal distaste for the Classical and Baroque periods, it wouldn't mean that the music, itself, shouldn't be reproduced well. That would be silly.

Correct me if i'm wrong (quite possible btw... ain't no sq expert at all), but staging is about recreating what a live band should sound like in front of you.

Let's say the singer is in the middle, guitars on its left and drummer and bassist somewhere else...

now about rap... what

does a live rap show sound like ? from what i've experience in my life, all it sound like is big bass drowing the instrumental samples and highs in "excite" mode, with some half-drunk/high *****z trying to spit their thing over that between two blunt puff and some hennesy sippin'

Rap Music recorded in studio ain't that better. Nigz smokin dro all over the engeneering equipment, spitting whatever come out their coke'up mind with no regard for what music is about... clipping the hella out everything to make sure the track will be number 1 on the chart. How do you stage the mpc?

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oh yeah i might exagerated this a little, i love hiphop and the culture around it, but it ain't serious....

They might be some clean reccorded shit... it's just not what "we" ( talking about population in general) care about. Dr.Dre Chronic album from 1992 is supposed to sound nice being a rap album, but honestly, it's boring //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

The eagles live album, on the other end, sound hella clean and make the tweeters shine like no other music has, in my unbalanced system btw

 

[cleansoundzz 10+ year member]

Personally, I have always been about clarity first then hard bass second. For me combination equalizers/crossovers have been the way to go. I may not win an SQ contest but people get in my car and shake their head. I researched my component sets as much as I did my subwoofers when I was putting my system together.

 

[bigaudiofanati2 10+ year member]

My SQ setup goes into more than just the best speakers and amps I can get. It goes into my music library. Nothing my uncompressed music all ripped from the original disks. A lot of it is old stuff like journey eagles and such some new but not much. The audison amp was the best one for me after looking into countless amps. The ID XS mids offer a lot of smooth mids without taking the biggest space with the magnet. The ID XS tweeters sound amazing as I have just installed a pair of them in a z, not harsh at all and with a active setup would sound amazing. Head unit alpine cda 9887 will be the final piece of the puzzle offering a active setup and tuning as well. No rears and a 12 inch ID Q sub nothing that is going to over power anything else or be stupid like those rolling subwoofers. Should sound nice.