Who is a real true SQ devotee and what does it mean to you?

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

That's what it is all about to me, to have fun, and enjoy the music //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

I agree 100% with your definition as that's what I strive for, but how is that judged by others when competing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

In competitions, you can take the judges comments for what they're worth. Some judges don't know jack. Some do. If you do not experience the problems they point out then it doesn't matter. But on the other hand, a respected judge can point out something you have never noticed, and it'll just pop out at you like it never did before and just begs to be fixed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

Apparently you don't frequent any HT forums as there are PLENTY of guys putting together systems that output insane amounts of LFE in the home //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif
My modest system consists of 2 15" RL-P's each in 10cubes @ 18hz and I demo scenes in the 12-14Hz range and my house literally gets beaten to death. Just the way I like it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

That's my HT sub as it was being built - 2x18" Dayton pro drivers, ~46ft3 in a MLTL alignment, +100dB sensitivity driven by a bridged Samson S1500. The sub can literally take the garage door off its hinges. Here's the difference between this and a SPL setup. The sub is used to augment the effects in movies; movies aren't used as a means of driving the sub. Not unlike using music as a way of making the system get loud vs. using a loud system to play music. It's a matter of of orientation. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[stuckinok 5,000+ posts]

sq sucks cuz its 96% opionion....

That is why I like SQ... I build the system to what I like and dont need a meter to tell me shit. A good sounding system will sound good to most people also. I mean that is the beauty of it. You can have 20 different cars and they all sound different. Not just loud loud bass. Iam not downing SPL as I do enjoy it but I really love the versatility of SQ

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

sq sucks cuz its 96% opionion....

a lot of people say that when they sound like crap.

 

[PIITB Wut Wut 10+ year member]

That is why I like SQ... I build the system to what I like and dont need a meter to tell me shit. A good sounding system will sound good to most people also. I mean that is the beauty of it. You can have 20 different cars and they all sound different. Not just loud loud bass. Iam not downing SPL as I do enjoy it but I really love the versatility of SQ

I feel for sq judges... they got a rough job... and then people have a right to argue because in the end its all opinion... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[PIITB Wut Wut 10+ year member]

a lot of people say that when they sound like crap.

concider i am running all rainbow, zapco, and a center seat vehicle... with a ID sealed sub... i guess your right...

 

[stuckinok 5,000+ posts]

I feel for sq judges... they got a rough job... and then people have a right to argue because in the end its all opinion... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

well then thats what happens when you compete....

Being into SQ doesnt mean you must compete. I do what I need to for myself and not for trophies and points

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

sq sucks cuz its 96% opionion....

Not really. When one is used to a certain level of reproduction and knows a series of recording intimately, it's easy to tell whether a system sounds transparent, whether its able to extract the detail in the recording, whether is spacial resolution is lacking and so on. The degree of success can be argued, but car audio has such a long way to go in this respect that it's essentially a moot point.

 

[PIITB Wut Wut 10+ year member]

well then thats what happens when you compete....
Being into SQ doesnt mean you must compete. I do what I need to for myself and not for trophies and points

i dig it!

 

[PIITB Wut Wut 10+ year member]

Not really. When one is used to a certain level of reproduction and knows a series of recording intimately, it's easy to tell whether a system sounds transparent, whether its able to extract the detail in the recording, whether is spacial resolution is lacking and so on. The degree of success can be argued, but car audio has such a long way to go in this respect that it's essentially a moot point.

there is definitly a math to it... in the end... what sounds good at comps doesnt really sound good for daily... my opinion..

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

there is definitly a math to it... in the end... what sounds good at comps doesnt really sound good for daily... my opinion..

I was talking about listening to music.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

concider i am running all rainbow, zapco, and a center seat vehicle... with a ID sealed sub... i guess your right...

That's good for you. I hate when people judge/listen with their eyes... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

there is definitly a math to it... in the end... what sounds good at comps doesnt really sound good for daily... my opinion..

A well tuned system should reproduce any music well. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

SQ is about accuracy. Transparency, staging and imaging, frequency response, blending... every one of these aspects of 'sound quality' are based on accuracy of the original experience. Unfortunately, the vast majority of people have only heard music 99% of the time in the life through speakers, preamps, etc. So when you have no real foundation to compare to, you tend to fall into the category of "SQ is subjective". SQ is not subjective, if you think so, in reality you are talking about "personal preference", which is a far cry from accuracy.

SQ is a journey that never ends. It is an adventure to chase the horizon, and never reach it. True accuracy only happens once, when the recording was made. Everything else is a pale comparison.