who here has hydraulics on the car besides me

i've done juice on brand new caddys,and bags on old chevys...like previously stated,they ride the same if done right. i've also built hoppers/dancers,so i know all about what can go wrong.lol

really it comes down to preference these days...has anyone read the latest issue of lowrider>it shows you how to get a standing three w/air,pretty simple!!

i'm working on building a twin to my truck w/air right now:D

 
Were you not pro-hydraulic 2 pages ago? As far as hydros getting lower than bags......your wrong. they BOTH can only lay your frame on the ground before being stopped.....cant get much lower than that.... and lockin up your ride is pointless. clear the tire and drive...not much reason for any higher IMO. Hydro's and air, both installed properly, ride JUST AS GOOD as EACH OTHER. There is no argument to that, everyone accepts it. It's not all that much of a pain to pull a standing 3 if you have (i believe it is) 3 port air-cans, and can be done with normal bags. Its mostly in the rear setup anyways, but it CAN be done with bags as I have seen it. What part of the air setup isnt "static" like hydros? I am guessing you mean static as there is no leveling out each side. For example...taking a hard turn would push air from the outside wheels, to the inside wheels....in this case...only a 4 valve setup is going to do that, an 8 valve setup is not going to do this.

I have, literally, no idea what I am running my mouth off about.

I agree to the very last part. That's all.

 
lol I had hydraulics on my 91 mazda B2200. I just recently took them off to replace with air bags. I would love to have kept them on there, but I didnt have time for the maintence and the shop that installed them screwed up pretty bad.
The truck sat in storage for 5 years because of them. I just pulled it out about 2 months ago and started working on it again. Right now it has the factory suspension back on it. I had to replace all of the factory front suspension due to poor welds and cutting too much out of the control arms. One of my upper control arms cracked completely thru and broke off. That caused the truck to take a hard drive into the road at hwy speeds and it bent the front support beam about 2" up. I just had the front 10" or so of the frame cut off and replaced with a donor section.

As for the hydraulics getting down lower or up higher... it all depends on installation. My hydraulics maxed out my upper ball joints when raised all the way. My bags also max out my ball joints. So they are getting the same lift. The rear is a different thing all together. I had my cylinders mounted to the lower spring perch. That got me about 12" of lift with 12" cylinders. If I did bags the same way I would only get 10". My rear bags are being mounted into a cantilever, lever set up. The bags are mounted to a 1.5:1 lever that is mounted to a 2:1 cantilever on my 4 link bars. That give me a 3.0:1 lift ratio. The 10" of bag lift will give roughly a 30" lift. Now I know that is a little exaggerated and Im expecting roughly 20" to 25" at close to max bag pressure. Im also running Slam Specialties RS series bags RS6 in the front and RS8 in the rear.

So in my personal opinion neither is better than the other. As for reliablity, they are both the same. They require maintence. I think air is easier to maintain than hydraulics. Both leak and will leak. Hydraulics are messy when they leak. Air is a pain in the *** when they leak. You have to search for the leak, you know where hydraulics are leaking. lol

They both have pros and cons. Hydraulics have come a long way from the early 80s to 90s. They ride a lot better than they used to with accumulators, battery charging is easier now that you can charge more than one at a time or even use a street charger. So I see no point in bashing either one. Its personal preference.

r u c-notching the frame too?

 
was wondering am i the only runnin hydros ?if you are what setup you got?
I have an air ride technologies kit on my '05 chrysler 300. It is a completely bolt on kit that I installed in a day, and turned out pretty good. I used it ALOT at first, but not so much anymore:crap:

 
Air here. SD triangulated 4-link with 8 valves and RE7 bags on all 4 corners.

Lays frame

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Over 11" of lift

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Second Skin Audio

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SB350

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More details at http://www.OaktownTrucks.com

As far as the 3-wheelin conversation goes, yes you can 3-wheel on dros or air. The big advantage you have with dros is that you usually have a trunk full of batteries weighing the back down to make it easier to lift the front.

 
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