What's With "kids" Nowdays?

[mr.cableboi 10+ year member]

I dont feel that is right to yell down this kid neck cause his dad is going to get him a vehicle and system. I understand that most dont have it like that and you worked hard for what you have today and so have i. I think its good that your dad is going to get you a car. My dad got me my first car and it was a piece of sh** Geo prizim but it got me around. Now i have full time job and just bought a 2002 chevy malibu. I know the feeling about everybody wanting the fastest car and loud system in school. I didnt even have my license in school. So didnt really matter to me. but i had some friend that would just spend money on there cars but they also saved up money for down payment in crap. I can Understand both sides but there is nothing wrong with you getting a car from your dad. Plus what hell does that have to do with your system???

 

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by mr.cableboi I dont feel that is right to yell down this kid neck cause his dad is going to get him a vehicle and system. I understand that most dont have it like that and you worked hard for what you have today and so have i. I think its good that your dad is going to get you a car. My dad got me my first car and it was a piece of sh** Geo prizim but it got me around. Now i have full time job and just bought a 2002 chevy malibu. I know the feeling about everybody wanting the fastest car and loud system in school. I didnt even have my license in school. So didnt really matter to me. but i had some friend that would just spend money on there cars but they also saved up money for down payment in crap. I can Understand both sides but there is nothing wrong with you getting a car from your dad. Plus what hell does that have to do with your system???

 

[Big-Cat 10+ year member]

sorry the above post was from me, but i couldn't log in. I just wanted to say thanks, and what do you mean what does my car have to do with me getting a system?

 

[mr.cableboi 10+ year member]

they are saying your dad is buying the car but what does that have to do with the topic on this tread and the system you are looking to get.

 

[zane 10+ year member]

I am one that believes in working hard to obtain the wants in life. I also believe that when something is acquired by these means, it is respected more.

However, if your parents are fortunate enough to have the means to provide you a car, and they wish to do so- more power to them. So long as you realize that you will have to assume full financial responsibility for yourself one day, and strive to achieve it; a gift is a gift. Some people are just a little more fortunate than others. It doesnt mean that it is bad for your parents to buy you things, a lot of parents do this because they want thier children to have a better life than them. Material Posessions are often the way this is expressed.

So long as they are giving this type of gift, you also should realize that they have a right to take back this gift, as they are the financing.- the lean holder if you will.

I think that is the main point some are trying to make here.

So you are fortunate enough to recieve the gift of a vehicle from your parents, that is fine. However, there is still no comparrison to the way you feel when you purchase your own vehicle by yourself. Call it a step towards independence or finanicial status.

I can only say this, I have not had a gift such as a vehicle given to me, however, I have purchased 5 vehicles on my own, and it is an incredible experience.

You will see for yourself once that opportunity presents itself to you. Until then, enjoy your gift, but know that it is a gift.

take it easy,

-zane

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

i second zane's post above, yet big-cat, while u have argued the virtue's of your parents buying your ride(my parents bought my first one too), u haven't got the full deal of most of these posts. u said that to be cool (not an exact quote) u needed the ride and system. WHY? becuz your friends,or the majority, say so?get it because YOU want it, not because THEY say you have to have it! strongest kid in school? physically maybe, mentally? not yet! when u can be u and not care what anybody else(except GOD and your parents)thinks, then you'll be ready to succeed.

good luck and PEACE!

oh yea, i like this one too....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nono.gif.eca61d170185779e0921b0faa9704973.gif

don't do this unless paid!!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/banghead.gif.8606515f668c74f6de0281deb475b6fd.gif

 

[Unregistered]

o.k. just my thoughts real fast. . .

#1 People who play their stereos at high levels just need to learn that there is a time and place for it. In front of someones house with 3 small sleeping children IS NOT IT!

Next for the people who a problem with rice burners. GET OVER IT. The import scene will only get bigger, and there is nothing i love more then to see someones wimpy Honda CRX burn modified 5.0's all day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif its pure beauty!

And finally, If someone decides to put stickers on their car, they should be able to do that at their own risk without people persecuing them for it LOL i mean, its their car, if they become a target then let 'em learn from the mistake. What kind of effect does that take on you.

Some people that think they are more mature then these "kids" out here as well, have alot of growing up to do themselves. i do know alot of teenagers that play their stereo at respectable volumes, and as soon as someone hears one little noise come from the car they get the piggies called on them. A-holes will always be around, but some of these die-hard SQ people, or people that just hate the idea of systems in general, just take it too far sometimes. I think people make a bigger problem out of it soemtimes then what it actaully is. And some people just need to stop *****ing about stuff. lata

 

[zane 10+ year member]

Originally posted by Unregistered  

Next for the people who a problem with rice burners. GET OVER IT. The import scene will only get bigger, and there is nothing i love more then to see someones wimpy Honda CRX burn modified 5.0's all day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif its pure beauty!

Hey now, I like my 5.0!!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

You do bring up an excellent point however, weather you are building a 4 cylinder or an 8 cylinder- you are optimizing what you have. It is a love for cars that drives both sides. I currently have a 5.0 in my Cougar that is creeping towards 400H.P. However, I also have a 2.0 in my Ford Probe that is pushing 250H.P. Both of these cars were the same ammount of fun to build. While I have always been more of a V8 guy, what most of us do not realize, is that the import scene is on to something here- performance wise(styling is another story). It takes a good deal of work to churn out 500 H.P. from a 4 cylinder, the same could also be said about a V8. The ammount of money spent on each would largely differ- however, that aside- I firmly believe that a lot of the V8 crowd does not realize that if they put the same ammount into thier cars as the import crowd does, then they would likely be near the 1,000H.P. As much as an old cliche' as it is, facts are facts, there is no replacement for displacement. Relating to engine design- physics hold that statement true. However, when the person designing the engine knows physics well, there are ways to accomplish most anything.

The Imports Vs. Domestics battle is about as dull as the Ford Vs. Chevy battle.

There is no solid proof supporting either side, just a large collection of opinionated people who have nothing better to do. Thus making this whole bit nothing more than a moot point.

When will people realize that weather you are building a 5.0 Mustang or a 1.8 CRX, you are building it, because you like cars.

Some people that think they are more mature then these "kids" out here as well, have alot of growing up to do themselves. i do know alot of teenagers that play their stereo at respectable volumes, and as soon as someone hears one little noise come from the car they get the piggies called on them. A-holes will always be around, but some of these die-hard SQ people, or people that just hate the idea of systems in general, just take it too far sometimes. I think people make a bigger problem out of it soemtimes then what it actaully is. And some people just need to stop *****ing about stuff. lata

I am an active competitor in the IASCA / USAC 601+ SQ Expert Class. Within this power range, my system is quite capable of being loud, and also sounding good.

However, as you pointed ou within your first few lines, there is a time and place for everything. Thus, the loudness of my system is only put into use at Competitions or Events, where it is legal. Notifying police of noise polution in general is everyones right under the law. No one should be forced to hear your bass. This especially holds true for when you are trying to sleep, when you have a sick child, on an important phone call, or even in an effort to keep your dogs quiet so that they do no disturb your neighbors even more than the excessive bass allready has.

So kindly tell me, in what way is abiding by the law taking it too far?

take it easy,

-zane

 

[mykeys 10+ year member]

It's your right to call the local cop shop for noise pollution..Simply turning your system down coming into a neihborhood can save a lot explainging hassles and a ticket. How much is it worth to you? If you don't wanna turn it down sooner or later there is gonna ge a kid that hears it and will take advantage of a midnight special on isle 9 otherwise known as your driveway.

I have to admit I am as bad as anyone else for badmouthing Chevy and imports with decked out cars..The difference being if you are gonna throw money intot he car why not make it from the inside out? I would rather be comfortable with a sweet mtor than have a hot lookin car the won't move when I depress the accellerator. I was a diehard Ford fan for a long time till I drove my Subaru, granted mine isn't now nor will it ever be something to race but I do like the WRX with it's 227hp. In 03 there will be another change twin turbo to make 280 hp..A few simple maods would easily put it around 350. I doubt I will ever own one but sure will be fun to test drive.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Mike

 

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by Unregistered o.k. just my thoughts real fast. . .

 

#1 People who play their stereos at high levels just need to learn that there is a time and place for it. In front of someones house with 3 small sleeping children IS NOT IT!

 

Next for the people who a problem with rice burners. GET OVER IT. The import scene will only get bigger, and there is nothing i love more then to see someones wimpy Honda CRX burn modified 5.0's all day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif its pure beauty!

 

And finally, If someone decides to put stickers on their car, they should be able to do that at their own risk without people persecuing them for it LOL i mean, its their car, if they become a target then let 'em learn from the mistake. What kind of effect does that take on you.

 

Some people that think they are more mature then these "kids" out here as well, have alot of growing up to do themselves. i do know alot of teenagers that play their stereo at respectable volumes, and as soon as someone hears one little noise come from the car they get the piggies called on them. A-holes will always be around, but some of these die-hard SQ people, or people that just hate the idea of systems in general, just take it too far sometimes. I think people make a bigger problem out of it soemtimes then what it actaully is. And some people just need to stop *****ing about stuff. lata

You couldn't get any farther from describing me than you just did. I said nothing about kids, adults, or even senior citizens. I just find it funny that people will throw a 6" exhaust on a car. And slap a bunch of type R stickers all over the car. And think there a bad a$$. Don't get me wrong. It is your perogative to do what you want with your automobile. I just find it quite amuseing. There is nothing wrong with a little boom every now and then. Just use your brain. And I have been one of those people having the cops called on them. Try cranking up 4 power 15's powered by 16 bd 1500.1's in your driveway. The neighbors didn't really like that too much. But I had enough respect to turn it down.

 

[Mark_ab 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by Unregistered o.k. just my thoughts real fast. . .

 

And finally, If someone decides to put stickers on their car, they should be able to do that at their own risk without people persecuing them for it LOL i mean, its their car, if they become a target then let 'em learn from the mistake. What kind of effect does that take on you.

Well, I can't vouch for every other poster on the subject, but I don't believe the majority of them were "persecuting" those with stickers. Although it does happen out there, I think those on this board were merely sharing a common opinion on the matter, while asking rhetorical questions on the mentality of plastering the car with decals. Advice can be given through experience, and having it out there is better than having none at all. If they choose to accept it and not repeat the same mistakes as others on this board, that is certainly their right. You're right, however, it does not have an affect on me directly, other than occasional amusement.

 

[Unregistered]

Ok Ok.... first off to Zane, what i mean is, taken for example:

I had a freind that just put new mids in his car, he turned the sub-level all the way down on his amp, turned it up (just playing mids) and a neighbor heard the stereo play while cutting the grass and called the cops! No im sorry, i can understand some little punk driving through a subdevision trying to shatter coffee mugs in peoples dishwashers. but this kind of stuff is just nuts. I am a firm beleiver in (there is a place and time for everything) but in alot of cases it comes down to stereo types and the need to point fingers. I know this kid, he works for me, and he is VERY respectable of others. But since he has his Juggernaut Sticker proudly streatched across the back of his truck. Every noise people hear, and every passer bye with a system playing high volumes is a cause for neighbors to call the cops on him. COMPLETE AND UTTER BS NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. Some of these punks, wether in their low teens, to mid fifties just need to be B-slapped the way they abuse their systems and ruin it for everyone else. . .

And as far as the imports, I have a 88 Honda CRX currently getting a 170HP B16 engine swap, a Jackson intercooler, and a ZEX dry NOS system in it. While this is getting completed. I have a 95 Civic Coupe DX. Nothing can really be done with a little 100 HP 1.5L so just so its not too slow, i placed a Matrix Racing intake, and a Tunabi cat-back system on it with a 4" tip on it (i beleive thats the size). I get slammed for it all the time. I have basically a balless crotch rocket with a Combat VR full body kit, !7" Einkei Zocu's on it, An Aerospeed GT2 Aluminum wing, and a Carbon hood on it, with so many neons and interior extras that it will blind you. So whats the big deal? If its not one dont make it look like one? I have people trying to race me all day long, and i just laugh at it. Maybe one day i will persue getting an engine swap in the coupe, but i figure since im new to the whole import racing scene i can have one that just looks mean and make one mean until i figure out completely what the hell im doing. But i just find it funny that people see me in the same sense as some idiot running the crap out of my DX motor just cause i pretend that its fast. It may apply to some, but regardless if its not your car, its not your situation, and basically not your say-so. lata

 

[Big-Cat 10+ year member]

no, but see i want a big system, and i want a car and everything. As far as a car goes, i don't really know what i want. However, the bass, i want something that's loud, and can be heard from outside my car, but nothing like really big. i figured that if i payed like 1000-2000 for a system, and then when i get to college, get embarrassed because it's so loud, it'd be a waste. I think i'm gonna stick around a 600-1000 range. With two 12 Punch HX2's. But back to the system, i've wanted a system for a long time. Ever since i saw/heard the first system i heard, i was always amazed by it. I've got probably a gig of songs on my computer that are all bass songs. They're organized into categories. Abolitionary, Awesome, Good, Poor. Obviously in alphabetical order with the name and how much bass/how powerful it is. i'm not getting a system for my friends. But the only way my friends have helped with the Car is told me to get an SUV or a truck because i'm a swolled. I'm not going by what my friends say...accept that i don't want to look dumb in a car

 

[JMPisGOD 10+ year member]

unfortunately, not everyones parents can satisfy their kids needs. my friend pays for everything himself, he expects nothing from his parents, but not because he thinks they are lazy and neglect him, but because he knows his parents dont have the money to give him the things he wants/needs, so instead, he works 2 jobs (for himself), and goes to school (to satisfy his parents). now this is what a childs responsibility is

Since when is having a stereo system, or even a car for that matter, a real necessity? Until the age of 18 you can bet your ass his parents had better satisfy his needs, but as far as him wanting a car and a system that will wake the dead his parents need not feel obligated to get involved...thus, making him less fortunate, but not neglected...