i've been waiting very patiently for over a year for the new id XS8 to come out... still nothing. i just heard it's probably gonna be another 90 days(12 months!). i want even go there for the new idmax 15. that sub was supposed to come out last july. i'm tired of the false promises. i really like mike and eric @ id, but i'm tired of the let-downs. i have a brand new set of ultra horns collecting dust waiting on that new 8" midbass driver. no... i don't wanna try the XS69
