What is?

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You’re welcome.

I know this.

Yes, it is.

Well that's your opinion.

That doesn’t make you a professional driver, any more than flipping burgers at McD’s make you a chef.

Sure it does. It matches the definition of a profession (noun 1. a paid occupation). It is factually correct and for some reason, that upsets you. So much so that you are arguing the definition of profession. This is one of those situation where your FEELINGS are in the way of your brain. I know you really, really want to be right because of your feeling but.... you are wrong so shut it.

There is no “angle” to you thinking you are an expert in immunology and virology because of your claimed degree in biology.
That’s just being moronic.

There sure isn't. I never claimed or said I was an expert in either of those fields. You holding on too tight to something that was never said. It's getting old Rob.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Why would I look for proof of that? It's not something I claimed, and not something I believe.

Is that how you debate a topic? Just create false narratives and assign them to other people?

Funny that you ask someone else if this is what they do. It is your calling card and is what you do many times over.

Case in point. I asked you IF I had the same degree as a medical professional what would make them more of an expert than me?

Pretty simple and a to-the-point question. What you did was then talk shit and stated that I claim I am an expert in immunology and virology.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Yeah...I'm athe science denier and chauvinist

If not, you sure present yourself as one.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

If not, you sure present yourself as one.

I don't recall spokey denying science or being chauvinistic. Acknowledging the male body has certain biological advantages over the female body when it comes to athletic endeavors doesn't make one a chauvinist and is certainly in line with what science tells us.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I know this.

Well that's your opinion.

Sure it does. It matches the definition of a profession (noun 1. a paid occupation). It is factually correct and for some reason, that upsets you. So much so that you are arguing the definition of profession. This is one of those situation where your FEELINGS are in the way of your brain. I know you really, really want to be right because of your feeling but.... you are wrong so shut it.

So if you just drove around all day during work hours, not delivering any pizzas, they would have paid you for your time?
And if you walked a pizza to a house 50 yards away, they WOULDN’T have paid you since you weren’t driving?
Oops, there’s the hole in your “professional driver” claim.

There sure isn't. I never claimed or said I was an expert in either of those fields. You holding on too tight to something that was never said. It's getting old Rob.

You did, with your rhetorical question of (paraphrased) “what makes them any more an expert than me?”.
Again, a dumb *** question if it was rhetorical, and even more so if it was genuine.
“IF I had the same degree as a medical professional what would make them more of an expert than me? Pretty simple and a to-the-point question.”
-Thxone

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I don't recall spokey denying science or being chauvinistic. Acknowledging the male body has certain biological advantages over the female body when it comes to athletic endeavors doesn't make one a chauvinist and is certainly in line with what science tells us.

It’s chauvinism to think men are always physically superior to women simply because they are men.
It’s also denying scientific fact that shows otherwise.

The overall average certainly shows the tilt in the male body versus the female body, but many of us (certainly not all, as evidenced in this forum) understand how averages work, and know that things can be above or below the average.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Males begin to gain the the biological advantages present in sports during puberty...idgaf what kind of links you post...that's just what it is...

It's prior to puberty. I've coached and watched youth soccer from 5 years old and up and the boys (on average) always had an advantage. More coordinated, more aggressive, faster, stronger, etc. IMHO, it's not something that can attributed entirely to puberty/testosterone.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

If not, you sure present yourself as one.

Yep...because I actively endorse a fair playing field for women (who fought to get their own leagues and competitions)...and because when my wife needs something moved or lifted I do that...and because I don't want my daughter (or anyone's daughter) to lose an opportunity...

Fck...I guess I really do hate women...you got me pegged Rob...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

It’s chauvinism to think men are always physically superior to women simply because they are men.
It’s also denying scientific fact that shows otherwise.

The overall average certainly shows the tilt in the male body versus the female body, but many of us (certainly not all, as evidenced in this forum) understand how averages work, and know that things can be above or below the average.

But nobody here has claimed that men are always superior to women. Returning to the example of my son and competitive youth soccer, between the boys and girls they field 9 competitive teams 5 boys teams ~65 boys, 4 girls teams ~50 girls. Without the "protection" of a girls league if we let them try out all together and place the them on 9 competitive non-gender leagues, then we'd have over 100 boys and probably no girls in the top ~7 teams. Let's just eliminate competitive athletics for ~3/4ths+ of the girls because we need to accommodate transletes beliefs about gender even if they go against science.

Can't wait for the day when I have to explain to my daughter why she got smoked by a boy on the other track team or why she lost her place on the relay team to a boy or why the "new guy" is taking her place in the triple jump. I think I'll advise her, just identify as a year younger and compete with younger girls. Afterall age isn't an absolute determining factor in athletics.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Yep...because I actively endorse a fair playing field for women (who fought to get their own leagues and competitions)...and because when my wife needs something moved or lifted I do that...and because I don't want my daughter (or anyone's daughter) to lose an opportunity...

Fck...I guess I really do hate women...you got me pegged Rob...

Hmmm, I mentioned a level playing field MULTIPLE times, and you discarded the idea completely, then you refer to your proof in the form of an Op/Ed by a law professor that concludes with 4 thoughts - two of which discuss a level playing field- and now you actively endorse a level playing field?

OK, so we are on the same page, then.

If your wife was just as capable as you at lifting or moving something, would she wait for you to do it, or would she just do it herself?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Hmmm, I mentioned a level playing field MULTIPLE times, and you discarded the idea completely, then you refer to your proof in the form of an Op/Ed by a law professor that concludes with 4 thoughts - two of which discuss a level playing field- and now you actively endorse a level playing field?

OK, so we are on the same page, then.

If your wife was just as capable as you at lifting or moving something, would she wait for you to do it, or would she just do it herself?

So you want leagues were only the top women athletes have any chance of participating...

It's funny how not only do you only reference the Duke lalaw paper I linked (nothing about the Princeton study) but you're hung up on her opinions over the the actual data she used...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you want leagues were only the top women athletes have any chance of participating...

It's funny how not only do you only reference the Duke lalaw paper I linked (nothing about the Princeton study) but you're hung up on her opinions over the the actual data she used...

She uses the data to support her suggestions of a level playing field.
And you are suddenly now in support of the level playing field I have been advocating all along.
Cool.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So if you just drove around all day during work hours, not delivering any pizzas, they would have paid you for your time?
And if you walked a pizza to a house 50 yards away, they WOULDN’T have paid you since you weren’t driving?
Oops, there’s the hole in your “professional driver” claim.

Good thing we don't have to wonder about your "what if" scenarios. Always trying to find some angle.

You did, with your rhetorical question of (paraphrased) “what makes them any more an expert than me?”.
Again, a dumb *** question if it was rhetorical, and even more so if it was genuine.
“IF I had the same degree as a medical professional what would make them more of an expert than me? Pretty simple and a to-the-point question.”
-Thxone

Wow, so because you can't answer that question you respond with bullshit and insults. If you can't answer a question then just say you don't know. Nobody is going to think less of you because you don't have an answer.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

She uses the data to support her suggestions of a level playing field.
And you are suddenly now in support of the level playing field I have been advocating all along.
Cool.

So you reference opinion as fact several times now while claiming that's what others do...while ignoring the data she used clearly shows the average male athlete outcompetes the average female athlete...so an "even" league as you call it would put all but the top female athletes at a disadvantage...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you reference opinion as fact several times now while claiming that's what others do...while ignoring the data she used clearly shows the average male athlete outcompetes the average female athlete...so an "even" league as you call it would put all but the top female athletes at a disadvantage...

He doesn't get it. Or he does and he is just doing like he does with me and even though he knows he is wrong will not admit it. He will search now for his angle with every breath he has.