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Sorry Rob, while I agree with you on quite a few topics, this isn't one of them. Most sports leagues aren't men only, they are just the top athletes. NHL, MLB, NBA, NFL, etc. Any team in any of these leagues would allow women to play if they were good enough to be an asset. I believe the Montreal Canadiens has a female goalie that played a couple exhibition games, but never a meaningful game.

I'm all for a person born in the wrong body being able to make a change but if athletics is their main pursuit in life, that change may have to wait a few years until they're finished with pro sports. Or they make they change and don't get to compete at a professional level.
Yes, this is speaking to the averages. I get that on the great average, men have the physical advantage.
But that is the great average. There are MANY examples of women that well exceed the great average and of men that do not meet the great average.

i used an example of a female that became a male. The argument against this person competing would be that the hormone therapy would be a disqualifying factor. Well, then men who transition to women would also be disqualified for hormone therapy. The problem solves itself.

But it seems that some people think a "*****" is just someone who wears gender-specific clothing (i.e. Steph Curry puts on a dress and tries to play on the WNBA). That's not what it is. It is FAR more involved, and thinking that a guy will cut off his junk just to play on a women's team? As ridiculous as thinking one's ****** orientation is both a choice but not a choice at the same time.

As for transitioning during the career? That would def. be a problem, but one that seems would solve itself. Mahomes starts taking hormones that force a reduction body weight and muscle mass? 'Better hope hsi contract isn't performance-based. Breanna Stewart starts taking hormones and grows a big beard and gains muscle mass. Might be a problem when on a women's league.
 
I've literally posted a Duke law paper on the subject and a link to a Princeton research study...and you claim I haven't provided anything but feelings 🤣🤣🤣
A Duke Law paper regarding a study of 8 people. The study showed that a bigger muscle will be a stronger muscle.

How does that prove that a male is superior to a female if they both have the same capabilities?
Does it prove that if the woman is better than the male, the male is still superior because he is male?
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If you want to prove your feeling, a Duke Law paper with nothing relevant to your argument is not going to help you, any more than Thxone claiming that with all his anatomy studies and expertise, he thinks his doctor said there are no nerves in bones and thus it is fact.

And here is the conclusion the law professor reached regarding the subject-
As a result, the conversation includes four general categories of policy options:
1. Keeping girls’ and/or women’s sport only for females.
2. Keeping the two categories but allowing males to compete in girls’ and women’s events (a) where they identify as girls and women, and/or (b) because they want the opportunity for some other reason, e.g., they are swimmers and their high school has a girls’ but not a boys’ swim team.
3. Keeping the two categories but allowing males to compete in girls’ and women’s events only if they identify as such and they transition their testosterone levels to within the female – ovarian – range.
4. Erasing the categories – no divisions by “male” and “female” however these are defined – and featuring only “open” sports and events where everyone competes together, or else in sports and events based on different classifications like height or weight.

Your professor offers two options that are strikingly similar to my suggestions that you think are so ridiculous.

Feelings aren't necessarily facts.
 
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But we're not talking averages, we're taking about the best of the best. We don't want an nba league of all 6'6-7' players and another one of all 6'-6'5 players to equal things out, you want to see the best players at any height play each other.

I want to see women's sports. IMO, women's tennis is better than men's because they don't serve as hard and have better rallies. We need women's specific sports or three would only be 1 in 10000 women that get to compete.

Look at wrestling or MMA as you bright up Rousey earlier. There's weight classes and yet there still a women's division because it wouldn't be fair. Ronda would kill me, but she's not being anyone in the top 30 in her weight class.
 
A Duke Law paper regarding a study of 8 people. The study showed that a bigger muscle will be a stronger muscle.

How does that prove that a male is superior to a female if they both have the same capabilities?
Does it prove that if the woman is better than the male, the male is still superior because he is male?
.
If you want to prove your feeling, a Duke Law paper with nothing relevant to your argument is not going to help you, any more than Thxone claiming that with all his anatomy studies and expertise, he thinks his doctor said there are no nerves in bones and thus it is fact.

And here is the conclusion the law professor reached regarding the subject-
As a result, the conversation includes four general categories of policy options:
1. Keeping girls’ and/or women’s sport only for females.
2. Keeping the two categories but allowing males to compete in girls’ and women’s events (a) where they identify as girls and women, and/or (b) because they want the opportunity for some other reason, e.g., they are swimmers and their high school has a girls’ but not a boys’ swim team.
3. Keeping the two categories but allowing males to compete in girls’ and women’s events only if they identify as such and they transition their testosterone levels to within the female – ovarian – range.
4. Erasing the categories – no divisions by “male” and “female” however these are defined – and featuring only “open” sports and events where everyone competes together, or else in sports and events based on different classifications like height or weight.

Your professor offers two options that are strikingly similar to my suggestions that you think are so ridiculous.

Feelings aren't necessarily facts.
So what's wrong with the Princeton study...since apparently if you don't agree with something it's just a bunch of feelings...
 
Having "open" leagues would kill oppurtunities for all but a select female athletes...the whole point of title 9 and the separate leagues was to provide equal opportunities and a level playing field for women...but you're against that and I'm chauvinist 🙄
 
Having "open" leagues would kill oppurtunities for all but a select female athletes...the whole point of title 9 and the separate leagues was to provide equal opportunities and a level playing field for women...but you're against that and I'm chauvinist 🙄
But that's what the Duke law professor, that you referenced to prove your point, is suggesting as a solution.
You "literally posted it" to prove your point.
Are you now saying the Op/Ed is wrong?
 
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He was saying it was one of several possible ideas...
The professor was a she. And she was making the suggestions in an Op/Ed that you used to prove your point that men and women should not compete together.
Two of her four suggestions mirror my thoughts.

In opposition to my thoughts, you shared an article that mirrors my thoughts.
Cool.
 
No you apparently just skimmed because if you looked at the charts she used it's evident what everyone but you can see...
"Skimmed"? Says the guy who thinks the article was written by a man, and doesn't even notice that 50% of the suggestions made in the conclusion support my thoughts. Thoughts that he disagrees with.

Thxone did the same when he posted illustrations from a medical reference that show nerves are in bones, when trying to support his argument that nerves are NOT in bones.

Too funny.
Are you him?
 
"Skimmed"? Says the guy who thinks the article was written by a man, and doesn't even notice that 50% of the suggestions made in the conclusion support my thoughts. Thoughts that he disagrees with.

Thxone did the same when he posted illustrations from a medical reference that show nerves are in bones, when trying to support his argument that nerves are NOT in bones.

Too funny.
Are you him?
You're using the authors opinions as facts instead of the facts the author used to come those opinions...
 
You're using the authors opinions as facts instead of the facts the author used to come those opinions...
So it IS an opinion piece.
OK. Then probably not the best support for your argument. Especially when some of the opinions expressed therein contradict the opinions you are expressing and trying to prove.

You skimmed for opinions that you thought supported your own.
We should do as you say but not as you do.
Got it.
 
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