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[RobGMN Premium Member]

“What do you have to lose? Take it,” the president said. “I really think they should take it. But it’s their choice. And it’s their doctor’s choice or the doctors in the hospital. But hydroxychloroquine. Try it, if you’d like.”
-Donald J. Trump

 

[SHO'NUFF]

Are you saying a suggestion can't be thinly veiled as a question?

You have cracked the code!

You said gas prices rose because Biden suggested we would get rid of fossil fuels.

Not just suggested, he promised. But not only did he promise, day one he shut down the keystone pipeline. And when an administration can just throw your long time, capital intensive project out the window; kinda makes you not want to engage in any other projects necessary to expand the capacities of delivering your products to the people.

BUT, Trump suggesting internal use of disinfectants

Because he didn't suggest it.

 

[SHO'NUFF]

Where's the credible study saying bleach ingestion rose? And why aren't the morons that drank bleach responsible for their own actions? A couple minutes on Google will inform anyone that it's not a good idea ffs...Trump was spitballing ideas...while not really a good idea to do that during a public announcement...he never told people that drinking bleach was a good idea...your all spin on this Rob...

Politico cited a number that poisoning due to disinfectants rose 121% in the year after the Trump press conference.

There are multiple studies from the environmental impact of the increase of using disinfectants since COVID that all claim disinfectant use exceeded the 121% jump in poisonings cited by Politico.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

How many of those disinfectant poisonings were from greater exposure (everyone was spraying everything they touched) versus intentional ingestion?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Not just suggested, he promised. But not only did he promise, day one he shut down the keystone pipeline. And when an administration can just throw your long time, capital intensive project out the window; kinda makes you not want to engage in any other projects necessary to expand the capacities of delivering your products to the people.

Because he didn't suggest it.

And you think people believed it could happen overnight, but no one would ever believe Trump could be right when he said to take disinfectants internally and to give hydroxycq a try. Such an apologist, you are.

And you have an oddly selective memory. The SCOTUS shut down Keystone in June 2020, when Trumpie was POTUS. Keystone was a Canadian pipeline moving Canadian oil across the US to Texas/etc, to be primarily.
"In November 2018, U.S. District Judge Brian Morris (District of Montana) enjoined construction of the pipeline and vacated the new permit because the policy reversal violated the Administrative Procedure Act, the National Environmental Policy Act, and the Endangered Species Act."
"On July 6, 2020, in the US Army Corps of Engineers v. Northern Plains Resource Council case, the Supreme Court of the United States ordered all Keystone XL work be halted."

At the time, only 8% of the pipeline had been constructed. 8% in 14+ years. At that rate, it would have been active in 100 years, making money for a Canadian company.
Why are you so concerned it didn't happen, and how do you think it correlates to gas prices going up because Biden suggested we should move away from fossil fuels?

Do your research before you bring up things that you heard in someone else's narrative and that sound good for your narrative.
It can bite you in the ***.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

How many of those disinfectant poisonings were from greater exposure (everyone was spraying everything they touched) versus intentional ingestion?

An excellent question. But if it was only one, and they did it b/c they felt Trump was suggesting it, then you have your answer.
And people DID admit to doing it based on what he said.

Stupid? Sure. Ridiculous? Sure.
Just as ridiculous as buying a Nike sneaker because it will make you play b-ball like Jordan. Or an Omega Seamaster because it will make you James Bond. Or a red MAGA hat because it will put you in the same public circle as Trump. Or beating up an immigrant because you support Trump.

Influence is real.

 

[SHO'NUFF]

And you think people believed it could happen overnight, but no one would ever believe Trump could be right when he said to take disinfectants internally and to give hydroxycq a try. Such an apologist, you are.

And you have an oddly selective memory. The SCOTUS shut down Keystone in June 2020, when Trumpie was POTUS. Keystone was a Canadian pipeline moving Canadian oil across the US to Texas/etc, to be primarily.
"In November 2018, U.S. District Judge Brian Morris (District of Montana) enjoined construction of the pipeline and vacated the new permit because the policy reversal violated the Administrative Procedure Act, the National Environmental Policy Act, and the Endangered Species Act."
"On July 6, 2020, in the US Army Corps of Engineers v. Northern Plains Resource Council case, the Supreme Court of the United States ordered all Keystone XL work be halted."

At the time, only 8% of the pipeline had been constructed. 8% in 14+ years. At that rate, it would have been active in 100 years, making money for a Canadian company.
Why are you so concerned it didn't happen, and how do you think it correlates to gas prices going up because Biden suggested we should move away from fossil fuels?

Do your research before you bring up things that you heard in someone else's narrative and that sound good for your narrative.
It can bite you in the ***.

https://www.npr.org/sections/inauguration-day-live-updates/2021/01/20/958823085/biden-order-blocks-keystone-xl-pipeline

 

[SHO'NUFF]

An excellent question. But if it was only one, and they did it b/c they felt Trump was suggesting it, then you have your answer.
And people DID admit to doing it based on what he said.

Why would they think Trump was suggesting it? He clearly wasn't. 99% of that falls on the media.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

https://www.npr.org/sections/inauguration-day-live-updates/2021/01/20/958823085/biden-order-blocks-keystone-xl-pipeline

Keep trying. Review the cort docs and the timelines:
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Keystone Pipeline - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Northern Plains Resource Council v. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers - The Climate Litigation Database

Challenge to U.S Army Corps of Engineers approval of Keystone XL pipeline project under the reissued Nationwide Permit 12 for pipeline and utility projects.

climatecasechart.com

Search

www.supremecourt.gov

(brings you to the SCOTUS website to see all the docs)

SCOTUS shut it down when Trump was president, b/c Trump didn't have legal authority to approve.

Again, what did you have to benefit from a Canadian company transporting oil across the US in a pipeline that was on track to be completed in a hundred years?
How do you think the completion in a hundred years affected gas prices today?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Says the guy who wanted to place the blame on Biden if the railway workers went on strike.

I guess it's only OK to put culpability on Biden for something he can't be the cause of, eh?
Like blaming him for gas price fluctuations.
Or accusing him of breaking the law by releasing oil from the SPR.
Or blaming him for inflation that followed a recession.


Like that?

I love how you compare apples to peanuts instead of apples to apples. Clown.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Trump got blamed because he put the suggestion out there. Yes it was a stupid suggestion and yes stupid people should accountable for their own stupidity. OTOH, a cult figure like Trump should be careful with what he says. BTW I mean cult figure in the non-derogatory sense.

It wasn't a suggestion it was a question.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I love how you compare apples to peanuts instead of apples to apples. Clown.

The clowns are the ones who think placing blame on someone who cannot be responsible has nothign to do with placing blame on someone who can be responsible.

FFS, you can't even support your own theories; don't start commenting on what is apples-to-apples.

Instead, tell us how you have no choice but be heterosexual, yet can choose to be homosexual.
Tell us how the set of numbers an average is derived from cannot contain the average number.
Tell us how ****** organs determine your ****** orientation, when people exist who are born with no organs or with two sets.
tell us how the term "in" is used incorrectly when Gray's Anatomy describes nerves as being in bones.
Tell us how two wires soldered together are referred to as "bridged" in circuit design and electrical engineering


The scary thing is you are dumber than a bag of rusty hammers, but you actually think you are intelligent.
That's fvcking dangerous.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The clowns are the ones who think placing blame on someone who cannot be responsible has nothign to do with placing blame on someone who can be responsible.

FFS, you can't even support your own theories; don't start commenting on what is apples-to-apples.

Instead, tell us how you have no choice but be heterosexual, yet can choose to be homosexual.
Tell us how the set of numbers an average is derived from cannot contain the average number.
Tell us how ****** organs determine your ****** orientation, when people exist who are born with no organs or with two sets.
tell us how the term "in" is used incorrectly when Gray's Anatomy describes nerves as being in bones.
Tell us how two wires soldered together are referred to as "bridged" in circuit design and electrical engineering


The scary thing is you are dumber than a bag of rusty hammers, but you actually think you are intelligent.
That's fvcking dangerous.

Shut up stupid. You got nuttin. You can't even form your own opinions you sheep.

 

[SHO'NUFF]

Again, what did you have to benefit from a Canadian company transporting oil across the US in a pipeline that was on track to be completed in a hundred years?
How do you think the completion in a hundred years affected gas prices today?

But not only did he promise, day one he shut down the keystone pipeline. He signed an executive order that specifically addressed the pipeline. And when an administration can just throw your long time, capital intensive project out the window. It was a message to the industry, and he has opposed just about every effort the industry has made to expand production or refinement. Kinda makes you not want to engage in any other projects necessary to expand the capacities of delivering your products to the people.

Those are actions, you can't compare it to Trump asking a question, and then immediately saying that medical doctors will have to figure it out.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Shut up stupid. You got nuttin. You can't even form your own opinions you sheep.

Oh look at your little self, getting all triggered when you are once again proved wrong.
How cute.
Go take a nap. Maybe you'll feel better later.