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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Interesting that you think facts have a political agenda.
Also interesting that you think

Interesting that you think facts have a political agenda.
Also interesting that you think Kyle needed to defend someone else’s property in another state due to “Democratic defunding”, even though the defunding cry began AFTER Ritttenhouse and Kenosha. ‘Seems like you are trying to make everything political.

Those people are dead because Kyle was stupid and in the wrong place at the right time. If you think that is being “American”, then you’re a fvcking idiot.

And he didn’t have an assault rifle. He had a rifle made to LOOK like an assault rifle, which says something about his intentions. He wanted to play grownup, and killed people in the process.

Rittenhouse sure as hell didn't intend to kill anybody. Until he was attacked, he was rendering first aid and putting out fires. Perhaps it's the intentions of the rioters that should be questioned.

Those people are dead because of a multitude of reasons, so don't put this on Kyle's shoulders. First and foremost I would blame the elected officials who didn't do their jobs because that was politically convenient decision. Next I would put the blame on the mainstream media who continued to stoke these fires by presenting a highly biased version of the facts. BLM and Antifa should be high up on the list. Then I'd blame the a-holes at the riots. Then I'd blame the a-hole (aka Rosenbaum, aka convicted *********) who threated to "kill you ******* if I catch you alone" and then was stupid enough to follow up on the that threat. Kyle pretty much belongs at the bottom of the blame ladder.

And for the record anybody that knows anything about guns wouldn't say an Smith & Wesson MP15 is made to "LOOK" like an assault rifle; it is an assault rifle. Has everything my M16 had except a 3 round burst setting. It's a standard AR that can swap uppers and lowers with other AR-15s. High capacity mag, pistol grip, hand grips, picatinny rails, bayonet mount, collapsible stock, gas operated (to keep recoil low and firing rate high), flash suppressor, threaded barrel - you know all the stuff the antigun crowd hates and uses to define an assault rifle.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Reduction... a reduction. Get it right. You said there was none. Prove it. If you have access to the budget then post the reduction. Otherwise you are leaving out vital information just to fit your personal views.

The money is budgeted. A reduction would require an updated budget.
I posted the Kenosha police budgets for 2019 and 2020;, you are suggesting it was changed in July 2020. Without proof, your suggestion is valueless.

Go ahead and prove your allegation and I will accept proof. You word or repetition of your word is not proof.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Guy with skateboard attempts to take on guy with a dressed-up rifle who has already shot someone. Where’s the logic other than “If I’m going to die, I’m going out swinging?”

Isn’t that what happened on flight 93? Isn’t that what we expect teachers to do in active shooter situations in schools? “Let’s roll”.

Now, what if the 3rd guy had dropped Rittenhouse b/c he believed he was an active shooter? Would he be supported by the same people who are supporting Kyle, or would he be called a criminal and vilified for his actions?
Genuine question.

The crowd IMO was trying to stop Rittenhouse from leaving the scene of the shooting. Nobody in the crowd ever yelled kick his azz or kill him. I think they yelled get him he just shot somebody. Too many people think Rittenhouse is a hero. They fail to see the horrible message this case sends to all teenaged kids out there.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Rittenhouse sure as hell didn't intend to kill anybody. Until he was attacked, he was rendering first aid and putting out fires. Perhaps it's the intentions of the rioters that should be questioned.

Those people are dead because of a multitude of reasons, so don't put this on Kyle's shoulders. First and foremost I would blame the elected officials who didn't do their jobs because that was politically convenient decision. Next I would put the blame on the mainstream media who continued to stoke these fires by presenting a highly biased version of the facts. BLM and Antifa should be high up on the list. Then I'd blame the a-holes at the riots. Then I'd blame the a-hole (aka Rosenbaum, aka convicted *********) who threated to "kill you ******* if I catch you alone" and then was stupid enough to follow up on the that threat. Kyle pretty much belongs at the bottom of the blame ladder.

And for the record anybody that knows anything about guns wouldn't say an Smith & Wesson MP15 is made to "LOOK" like an assault rifle; it is an assault rifle. Has everything my M16 had except a 3 round burst setting. It's a standard AR that can swap uppers and lowers with other AR-15s. High capacity mag, pistol grip, hand grips, picatinny rails, bayonet mount, collapsible stock, gas operated (to keep recoil low and firing rate high), flash suppressor, threaded barrel - you know all the stuff the antigun crowd hates and uses to define an assault rifle.

Do you have the link to the video where Rosenbaum says what you claimed he said? I thought the prior record of Rosenbaum didn't matter?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The money is budgeted. A reduction would require an updated budget.
I posted the Kenosha police budgets for 2019 and 2020;, you are suggesting it was changed in July 2020. Without proof, your suggestion is valueless.

Go ahead and prove your allegation and I will accept proof. You word or repetition of your word is not proof.

Here, put on your glasses.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

That's pre-trial...if he shot somebody over "just a plastic bag" he'd be doing a fck load of time right now...circumstances matter...

He mistook the plastic bag for a chain and shot four times. Those plastic bags can be deadly.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

He mistook the plastic bag for a chain and shot four times. Those plastic bags can be deadly.

Uh yeah... choking hazard. Fire hazard. Bad for the environment. Ducks eat them. Fish could get stuck in them... the list goes on and on.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

If that proves Rittenhouse's propensity to violence...then the past actions of the 3 shot indicate Rittenhouse had every right to feel threatened...can't have it both ways...

I guess he thought Rosenbaum was going to **** him. What were the second and third guys records? Assault with a deadly skateboard?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I guess he thought Rosenbaum was going to **** him. What were the second and third guys records? Assault with a deadly skateboard?

Listen turd. I got my asss beat down buy several guys WITH SKATEBOARDS when I was 15 because I jumped in while they were harassing a young girl. Skateboards hurt. I have scars on my face and head still.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Rittenhouse sure as hell didn't intend to kill anybody. Until he was attacked, he was rendering first aid and putting out fires. Perhaps it's the intentions of the rioters that should be questioned.

Those people are dead because of a multitude of reasons, so don't put this on Kyle's shoulders. First and foremost I would blame the elected officials who didn't do their jobs because that was politically convenient decision. Next I would put the blame on the mainstream media who continued to stoke these fires by presenting a highly biased version of the facts. BLM and Antifa should be high up on the list. Then I'd blame the a-holes at the riots. Then I'd blame the a-hole (aka Rosenbaum, aka convicted *********) who threated to "kill you ******* if I catch you alone" and then was stupid enough to follow up on the that threat. Kyle pretty much belongs at the bottom of the blame ladder.

And for the record anybody that knows anything about guns wouldn't say an Smith & Wesson MP15 is made to "LOOK" like an assault rifle; it is an assault rifle. Has everything my M16 had except a 3 round burst setting. It's a standard AR that can swap uppers and lowers with other AR-15s. High capacity mag, pistol grip, hand grips, picatinny rails, bayonet mount, collapsible stock, gas operated (to keep recoil low and firing rate high), flash suppressor, threaded barrel - you know all the stuff the antigun crowd hates and uses to define an assault rifle.

I say it’s not an assault rifle because it really doesn’t fit the technical definition, which is the burst or full-auto capability

When it comes to guns I like to be very detail-oriented, especially when it comes to their use in situations like this AND in arguments between the pro and the anti-gun crowd.

Anti-gunners will call a .22 in a Halloween costume an “asssult rifle” and I will say “bullshit”. I will say the same for a .223, a 5.56, or a 7.62 in the same”costume”. If someone were able to convert a traditional hunting rifle to burst or full auto and claim it’s just a “hunting rifle”, I would also call bullshit

I do this because if you speak strictly to facts , it brings a more even playing field to an argument.
Someone saying a dressed up rifle is more dangerous is like someone saying a car with a wing on the trunk is faster.
Bullshlt.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Listen turd. I got my asss beat down buy several guys WITH SKATEBOARDS when I was 15 because I jumped in while they were harassing a young girl. Skateboards hurt. I have scars on my face and head still.

What girl was Rittenhouse protecting?

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

That wasn't just a "crowd"...Rittenhouse was far from being the only person with a firearm...

What businesses did they loot or burn down that night? I'll wait.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

What girl was Rittenhouse protecting?

He was protecting himself at that point. Stop being an assshole.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Here, put on your glasses.

Post a readable version. And make sure it’s not a 2022 budget.
Prove your claim of a mid-year budget change for the city of Kenosha police department in 2020.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You have no idea why he did anything to his rifle. You are speculating and assuming.

You gotta fact check these guys. He didn't do anything (in particular) to that rifle. It's your standard Smith and Wesson M&P 15. He opted for no iron sights and went with the red dot & 20 inch barrel. OEM grips, stock, etc. The red dot may be aftermarket or it may have come without a sight forcing him to go aftermarket for the sight.