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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

You don't a ton of computing power to make deactivated virus vaccines.

Yeah, but that’s not really what we got. We got viral vectors and MRNA based around spike proteins antibodies. The deactivated virus is still putting spike protein DNA into you.

‘Once your cells create the spike proteins, your body breaks down the mRNA. In viral vector vaccines, spike protein DNA is placed inside a modified version of a different virus that doesn't cause illness. This non-harmful virus delivers the DNA instructions to your cells - this virus is called the vector.’

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‘The mutation, they found, makes the spikes more stable than those on the original virus. As a result, more functional spikes are available to bind to our cells’ ACE2 receptors, making the virus more infectious.‘

Altered spike protein makes SARS-CoV-2 variants more infectious - Boston Children's Answers

A structural biology study of SARS-CoV-2 variants finds a mutation in the spike protein that makes it less apt to fall apart.

answers.childrenshospital.org

They’re mutating the spike proteins with the previous injections. The spike proteins are an absolutely massive part of the enhanced gain of function ability of the covid virus that they designed in a military grade bioweapons lab in China with AI. The whole reason that specific spike protein was used was to make this disease more infectious.

‘“This is a very interesting study showing that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein has domains that could promote aggregation to form amyloid fibrils. Such fibrils have been associated with cellular dysfunction, and if this happened during COVID-19, it would suggest yet another mechanism by which the virus can damage organs,” he told MNT.’

COVID-19: Amyloids could explain blood clots, neurological symptoms

New research suggests a possible biological mechanism involving amyloids that may be able to explain why some COVID-19 patients experience blood clots and neurological symptoms.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Yeah, but that’s not really what we got. We got viral vectors and MRNA based around spike proteins antibodies. The deactivated virus is still putting spike protein DNA into you.

‘Once your cells create the spike proteins, your body breaks down the mRNA. In viral vector vaccines, spike protein DNA is placed inside a modified version of a different virus that doesn't cause illness. This non-harmful virus delivers the DNA instructions to your cells - this virus is called the vector.’

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‘The mutation, they found, makes the spikes more stable than those on the original virus. As a result, more functional spikes are available to bind to our cells’ ACE2 receptors, making the virus more infectious.‘

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They’re mutating the spike proteins with the previous injections. The spike proteins are an absolutely massive part of the enhanced gain of function ability of the covid virus that they designed in a military grade bioweapons lab in China with AI. The whole reason that specific spike protein was used was to make this disease more infectious.

‘“This is a very interesting study showing that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein has domains that could promote aggregation to form amyloid fibrils. Such fibrils have been associated with cellular dysfunction, and if this happened during COVID-19, it would suggest yet another mechanism by which the virus can damage organs,” he told MNT.’

COVID-19: Amyloids could explain blood clots, neurological symptoms

New research suggests a possible biological mechanism involving amyloids that may be able to explain why some COVID-19 patients experience blood clots and neurological symptoms.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

I use AI to design sub boxes.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

After they sequence it, they can (wait for it) TELL YOU.

You request the info. If you're sample was sequenced some states require that the information be released upon request others don't. If you're in a "don't" state, then I guess it's up to how charming you are, or who you know, or in the case of healthcare workers it's just doing a solid for somebody else who is fighting the same fight.

Right, but how many people are getting vaccines and don’t even know what variant they’ve had?

‘No vaccine has been altered to better target a COVID-19 variant, though Pfizer and Moderna are exploring that option.’

Are COVID-19 Booster Shots Variant-Specific?

Learn about COVID-19 booster shots and whether they're variant specific or the same as previous doses

www.verywellhealth.com

So…the spike protein is what’s mutating, so you’re gonna take a spike protein based vaccine that hasn’t been changed for the different spike proteins on the variants?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Right, but how many people are getting vaccines and don’t even know what variant they’ve had?

‘No vaccine has been altered to better target a COVID-19 variant, though Pfizer and Moderna are exploring that option.’

Are COVID-19 Booster Shots Variant-Specific?

Learn about COVID-19 booster shots and whether they're variant specific or the same as previous doses

www.verywellhealth.com

So…the spike protein is what’s mutating, so you’re gonna take a spike protein based vaccine that hasn’t been changed for the different spike proteins on the variants?

You struggle so hard to find minutiae that you think supports your anti-vax stance, even when there is OVERWHELMING evidence that the vax is safe and working.

Why is that?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

LIGMA

‘President Joe Biden exaggerated when he spoke about the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccine during a CNN town hall. "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations," Biden said.’

Biden exaggerates efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines

President Joe Biden exaggerated when he spoke about the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccine during a CNN town hall. "Y

www.politifact.com

Do you not have a memory or?

I have to chime in here. Trump says the virus will disappear when nobody really had any info on COVID-19 and you call him a liar. Biden had plenty of people to fall back on with extensive knowledge of the virus and his statement is an "exaggeration"??? Eat my asss!! You people know better than that. A lie is a lie is a lie. Exaggeration my asss. Do you really want to say you don't see the bias, the hypocrisy? Really. If Trump lied then Biden REALLY lied.

Not you calling Trump a liar Buck... I am just using your post to drop my point in here.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You struggle so hard to find minutiae that you think supports your anti-vax stance, even when there is OVERWHELMING evidence that the vax is safe and working.

Why is that?

I would say the vaccines at this moment in time appears to be safely working for some but not all who have been vaccinated.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

1. I mostly post news articles, but you know that. It’s obvious lol.
2. The concept of God is finding the concept of God.

1. Wow. A whole lot of news sources are posting a whole lot of stuff about Nazis, IBM and the Holocaust, AI conspiracy fantasy, and lies about vaccines killing people by the millions. Sure am glad I don't watch the news.
2. No, that is not the concept of God. I was hoping you would know, since you seemed very confident that *I* didn't know. Maybe don't act so cocksure when you can't back it up.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I would say the vaccines at this moment in time appears to be safely working for some but not all who have been vaccinated.

Blue sky is never 100% accurate and never will be, but statistics show the vaccine works.
If they could design a vaccine or any drug that was sure to work 100% of the time for every recipient, we likely would have eradicated disease, birth defects, etc. long ago.

Buck thinks the 'greater good" is a fraudulent or maybe fascist or Nazi or Communist or whatever theory, but medicine is made to work for the most people possible. That's just common sense.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Again we have no clue about long term side effects...we won't for some time...usually vaccines and other medications go through a long term study before release to the public...this time the public is the long term study group...

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

1. Wow. A whole lot of news sources are posting a whole lot of stuff about Nazis, IBM and the Holocaust, AI conspiracy fantasy, and lies about vaccines killing people by the millions. Sure am glad I don't watch the news.
2. No, that is not the concept of God. I was hoping you would know, since you seemed very confident that *I* didn't know. Maybe don't act so cocksure when you can't back it up.

What’s the concept of God, then?

Why would you get the same vaccine over and over again if it’s not changed for the variants?

‘More COVID-19 booster shots may be on the way -- but when it’s your turn, you’ll get an extra dose of the original vaccine, not one updated to better match the extra-contagious delta variant.‘

‘That means there’s no guarantee a delta-specific booster would protect any better, said University of Pennsylvania immunologist John Wherry.’

‘Updating the formula merely requires swapping out the original genetic code with mRNA for a mutated spike protein.’

Why COVID boosters weren't tweaked to better match variants

COVID-19 booster shots are an extra dose of the original vaccine, and some experts wonder why they weren't updated to better match the delta variant

abcnews.go.com

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Blue sky is never 100% accurate and never will be, but statistics show the vaccine works.
If they could design a vaccine or any drug that was sure to work 100% of the time for every recipient, we likely would have eradicated disease, birth defects, etc. long ago.

Buck thinks the 'greater good" is a fraudulent or maybe fascist or Nazi or Communist or whatever theory, but medicine is made to work for the most people possible. That's just common sense.

I believe in the greater good but humans have become too greedy for this to happen right now.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I have to chime in here. Trump says the virus will disappear when nobody really had any info on COVID-19 and you call him a liar. Biden had plenty of people to fall back on with extensive knowledge of the virus and his statement is an "exaggeration"??? Eat my asss!! You people know better than that. A lie is a lie is a lie. Exaggeration my asss. Do you really want to say you don't see the bias, the hypocrisy? Really. If Trump lied then Biden REALLY lied.

Not you calling Trump a liar Buck... I am just using your post to drop my point in here.

Idc if you are calling Trump a liar. I don’t approve of operation warp speed. Trump could be a genius or fooled or lied to, who knows. I think he spoke too early, and was trying to be calming to people, for whatever intent. I don’t want DARPA in my healthcare:

‘Examples of current DARPA investments include the Pandemic Prevention Platform (P3) program, whose goal is to develop methods “capable of producing relevant numbers of doses against any known or previously unknown infectious threat within 60 days of identification of such a threat.” Awardees of the P3 program have been applying the results of their work to COVID-19. For example, a COVID-19 antibody treatment developed with support from DARPA by AbCellera Biologics, in partnership with Eli Lilly and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Vaccine Research Center, began human clinical trials in June 2020.

Additionally, an awardee from DARPA’s Epigenetic Characterization and Observation (ECHO) program, Fluidigm, in collaboration with a consortium of medical schools, is developing an early detection test for SARS-CoV-2, the novel virus that causes COVID-19.‘

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/in/in11446

‘Previous DARPA investments are also showing promise in combating COVID-19. For example, in 2013, the Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT) program awarded grant funding to Moderna Therapeutics for the development of a new type of vaccine based on messenger RNA.’

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yeah, but that’s not really what we got. We got viral vectors and MRNA based around spike proteins antibodies. The deactivated virus is still putting spike protein DNA into you.

‘Once your cells create the spike proteins, your body breaks down the mRNA. In viral vector vaccines, spike protein DNA is placed inside a modified version of a different virus that doesn't cause illness. This non-harmful virus delivers the DNA instructions to your cells - this virus is called the vector.’

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‘The mutation, they found, makes the spikes more stable than those on the original virus. As a result, more functional spikes are available to bind to our cells’ ACE2 receptors, making the virus more infectious.‘

Altered spike protein makes SARS-CoV-2 variants more infectious - Boston Children's Answers

A structural biology study of SARS-CoV-2 variants finds a mutation in the spike protein that makes it less apt to fall apart.

answers.childrenshospital.org

They’re mutating the spike proteins with the previous injections. The spike proteins are an absolutely massive part of the enhanced gain of function ability of the covid virus that they designed in a military grade bioweapons lab in China with AI. The whole reason that specific spike protein was used was to make this disease more infectious.

‘“This is a very interesting study showing that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein has domains that could promote aggregation to form amyloid fibrils. Such fibrils have been associated with cellular dysfunction, and if this happened during COVID-19, it would suggest yet another mechanism by which the virus can damage organs,” he told MNT.’

COVID-19: Amyloids could explain blood clots, neurological symptoms

New research suggests a possible biological mechanism involving amyloids that may be able to explain why some COVID-19 patients experience blood clots and neurological symptoms.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

I'm not even sure what you're on about. You said poorer nations require massive computing power to create vaccines. I said they don't require massive computing power to make deactivated virus vaccines. That's how they were making vaccines before massive computing power became common place. Now you're off on some other tangent....

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I believe in the greater good but humans have become too greedy for this to happen right now.

On that we're in agreement. Although, I will add in the caveat that it's a small portion of humans who are too greedy - namely the "1 percent" who control most of the planet's wealth and resources. That said, I think if you were swap out that 1% for a different 1% the problem of greed would still persist. The odd thing about greed, is so many people rush to defend it. I suppose they know in their heart of hearts that if they were in a position of massive wealth and power, they too would use it for their own ends rather than share the wealth.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Again we have no clue about long term side effects...we won't for some time...usually vaccines and other medications go through a long term study before release to the public...this time the public is the long term study group...

Unfortunately, we didn't have the time to wait this one out. That said fortunately, most side effects are almost immediate and all data to date still indicates that this vaccine is way safer than catching Covid. Although as Covid mutates into less and less deadly variants there may be a day where the vaccine is unnecessary on a large scale.