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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yes, doubling $500 results in $1,000.
The first time you've gotten math correct here so far. Good job!

I made 5x that on BP alone. GM was insane, but I didn't risk as much there as I should have. But, a profit is a profit.

So, I made $16,000 betting on Holly Holm to be Rousey.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you are using your feelings to determine that "the news" is infotainment. So even if a news source sites nothing but information like the list you gave, you will ignore the facts they show if they have any kind of words to add to the broadcast? You will choose to ignore those sources based on your feelings.

Rob, this is a car audio website. This is NOT a source of facts if you will. There is no need for you to engage in conversation regarding anything factual here as this would just be another "infotainment" source. Are you going to be a hypocrite or are you going to push the ignore button?

My "feelings" don't make the news infotainment. The FACT that they inject opinion and spin in their reporting makes it infotainment. The FACT that they consider J-Lo's latest blowj0b to be "news" makes it infotainment. The FACT that they editorialize on things makes it infotainment.

Telling us a building burned to the ground is reporting. Adding the backstory of the building and getting opinions from the neighborhood (or even providing their own) about what may have caused it is infotainment.

Once again, your comprehension is lacking. I did not say I will ignore facts. I said "If I were to see any "news" that I was going to pay attention to as important, I would take it as opinion/speculation until I could verify." Don't add your own inaccurate spin to my my VERY clear words.

Maybe YOU are willing to accept as truth whatever anyone says here, and expect others to believe what you say, simply because you say it. Go for it.
I'm not you. I don't trust what people say, especially anonymous people on a car audio forum (this thread of which is specifically NOT car audio related, BTW). If I see something I question, I will verify. I will call bullshit if it's bullshit.
I'm not sure why you're hung up on me calling out people's bullshit. Does it trigger you in some way that I just don't blindly accept lies and misinformation in a thread where people have been calling it out for years?
Maybe be more upset that people post bullshit, than that I (and others) call people out for it.
Which one could be more harmful?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So, I made $16,000 betting on Holly Holm to be Rousey.

You risked about $2,000.
And?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

My "feelings" don't make the news infotainment. The FACT that they inject opinion and spin in their reporting makes it infotainment. The FACT that they consider J-Lo's latest blowj0b to be "news" makes it infotainment. The FACT that they editorialize on things makes it infotainment.

Telling us a building burned to the ground is reporting. Adding the backstory of the building and getting opinions from the neighborhood (or even providing their own) about what may have caused it is infotainment.

Once again, your comprehension is lacking. I did not say I will ignore facts. I said "If I were to see any "news" that I was going to pay attention to as important, I would take it as opinion/speculation until I could verify." Don't add your own inaccurate spin to my my VERY clear words.

Maybe YOU are willing to accept as truth whatever anyone says here, and expect others to believe what you say, simply because you say it. Go for it.
I'm not you. I don't trust what people say, especially anonymous people on a car audio forum (this thread of which is specifically NOT car audio related, BTW). If I see something I question, I will verify. I will call bullshit if it's bullshit.
I'm not sure why you're hung up on me calling out people's bullshit. Does it trigger you in some way that I just don't blindly accept lies and misinformation in a thread where people have been calling it out for years?
Maybe be more upset that people post bullshit, than that I (and others) call people out for it.
Which one could be more harmful?

So are you afraid of news channels or something?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You risked about $2,000.
And?

Nah, no risk. I knew she was gonna kick her in the head. Easy money.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nah, no risk. I knew she was gonna kick her in the head. Easy money.

You knew better than the oddsmakers. You are in the wrong business.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So are you afraid of news channels or something?

There are no news channels. There is infotainment. And no, I am not afraid of them; I find no use in them.
If you get excited about eating a steady diet of "maybe" and that Kanye bought a new pair of shoes, have at it.
I'm not interested in it.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Well, these are some interesting statistics.
I wonder if they’ll go deeper and find causation.

Excess Death Rates for Republicans and Democrats During the COVID-19 Pandemic

Founded in 1920, the NBER is a private, non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to conducting economic research and to disseminating research findings among academics, public policy makers, and business professionals.

www.nber.org

“Overall, the excess death rate for Republicans was 5.4 percentage points (pp), or 76%, higher than the excess death rate for Democrats. Post- vaccines, the excess death rate gap between Republicans and Democrats widened from 1.6 pp (22% of the Democrat excess death rate) to 10.4 pp (153% of the Democrat excess death rate). The gap in excess death rates between Republicans and Democrats is concentrated in counties with low vaccination rates and only materializes after vaccines became widely available.”

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Given his brain damage and how it affected his decision-making regarding the abortion, he’s the perfect candidate.

Do as I say, not as I do. I'm sure GOP voters will find in their hearts to forgive him. Moving forward others will have to go jail for their abortions - at least in Georgia. I find the whole "6 weeks" thing a little sketchy too. We knew the exact date of conception with our first child, but the doctors used a different date. I don't remember what they based that on, but according my wife's medical records my daughter was conceived ~1 week before she was actually conceived. 6 weeks is such a tight window as it is, if women are losing a week because of how the medical profession determines date of conception or maybe irregular menstruation cycles, 6 weeks boarders on an impossibly short window.

Personally, I find it a little upsetting as I have great admiration for the Hersel Walker the athlete and his "rags to riches" story. OTOH, I have numerous male friends who were very liberal about abortion back when it suited them, but who are now hard core pro-life.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You knew better than the oddsmakers. You are in the wrong business.

Indeed I did know better and that's how you win at gambling.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

There are no news channels. There is infotainment. And no, I am not afraid of them; I find no use in them.
If you get excited about eating a steady diet of "maybe" and that Kanye bought a new pair of shoes, have at it.
I'm not interested in it.

Newsy isn't bad. Alot of the internet "truth or fiction" type sites do a good job, although confirming or denying a story isn't really the same as reporting....

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

There are no news channels. There is infotainment. And no, I am not afraid of them; I find no use in them.
If you get excited about eating a steady diet of "maybe" and that Kanye bought a new pair of shoes, have at it.
I'm not interested in it.

Well, those are your feelings. If you are not afraid of them, why not jump on their forums and tell them all how wrong THEY all are and argue with them?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The truth always takes longer to come out:

‘Today, State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo has announced new guidance regarding mRNA vaccines. The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety.

This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination…’

BREAKING BIG: FL Surgeon General Finds 84% Increase in Cardiac-Related DEATH in Males 18-39 Following mRNA Vaccine - Recommends Young Males Refrain from Receiving COVID Vaccine | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Florida Surgeon General released a shocking report on Friday.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

I’m sure the FL department of health are all also conspiracy theorists…

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The truth always takes longer to come out:

‘Today, State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo has announced new guidance regarding mRNA vaccines. The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety.

This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination…’

BREAKING BIG: FL Surgeon General Finds 84% Increase in Cardiac-Related DEATH in Males 18-39 Following mRNA Vaccine - Recommends Young Males Refrain from Receiving COVID Vaccine | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Florida Surgeon General released a shocking report on Friday.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

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I’m sure the FL department of health are all also conspiracy theorists…

It's Florida. Remember how pissed you guys were Covid was getting cited in cases where Covid wasn't the underlying cause of death. Apparently, that doesn't bother you when such methodology can be used to blame the death on the Vax though. Doesn't look like the accounted for comorbidity either.

This study cannot determine the causative nature of a participant’s death. We used death certificate data and not medical records. COVID testing status was unknown for those who did not die of/with COVID. Cardiac-related deaths were ascertained if an ACME code of I3-I52 were on their death certificate, thus, the underlying cause of death may not be cardiac-related.

^^^^^ from Limitations page 3 of 8 (for some reason I suspect that link won't work). Google ACME code of I3-I52 and it should be one of the first links.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccines-analysis.pdf

Ironically, the Florida study says the vaccine risk should be measured against the disease risk. Luckily CDC is well aware of the increase in cardiac events in young males after mRNA vaxs and furthermore, CDC was nice enough to do risk comparison:

Among males aged 12–17 years, the incidences of myocarditis and myocarditis or pericarditis were 50.1–64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection, 2.2–3.3 after the first vaccine dose, and 22.0–35.9 after the second dose; incidences of myocarditis, pericarditis, or MIS were 150.5–180.0 after infection. RRs for cardiac outcomes comparing infected persons with first dose recipients were 4.9–69.0, and with second dose recipients, were 1.8–5.6; all RRs were statistically significant.

Among males aged 18–29 years, the incidences of myocarditis and myocarditis or pericarditis were 55.3–100.6 cases per 100,000 after infection, 0.9–8.1 after the first vaccine dose, and 6.5–15.0 after the second dose; incidences of myocarditis, pericarditis, or MIS were 97.2–140.8 after infection. RRs for cardiac outcomes comparing infected persons with first dose recipients were 7.2–61.8, and with second dose recipients, were 6.7–8.5; all RRs were statistically significant.

Apparently the risk to young females is negligible. Luckily for US citizens (and the world) CDC has compiled a lot data and been relatively transparent about it. CDC never hid the limited effectiveness of masks. CDC was open about the issues with data gathering, etc, etc, etc. I'm not sure why Florida has chosen to recommend against the vax for 5-39 year olds, but I suspect it's political since it appears you're about 7 times better off with a double dose of vax vs Covid and I'm pretty your chances of not getting exposed to Covid are close to zero. I know I combed over data before getting the kiddos vaxed and ~14yr old is when you see the cardiac events jump, so we were motivated to get the vaxxed while they were young. I'm not sure why Florida didn't follow a similar approach, then again even recommending against vax for ~14-39 seems suspect.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7114e1.htm

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Well, those are your feelings. If you are not afraid of them, why not jump on their forums and tell them all how wrong THEY all are and argue with them?

You really ARE confused about feelings versus facts.
No wonder you so often think because you feel one way about something, it must then be fact.
It CAN be, but that doesn’t by default mean it IS.