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[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Buck that says since Jan 1st. Biden was not president Jan 1st. Bidens numbers don't start until Jan 21st and the minute he is sworn into office. That was my point about the number and Jan. From the time the election happened till right before Biden was sworn in 60 some thousand deaths happened under trump.

Numbers show Trump had more die then Biden up till Nov 30th. People like that guy who wrote that piece can not count in numbers of deaths for Biden from Jan 1st doesn't work that way.

And I know you don't care who has died more and what not from our talks outside of this place.

Biden also accepted a pandemic that had a running start. Trump had a virus from patient zero. That is a huge gigantic difference.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Biden also accepted a pandemic that had a running start. Trump had a virus from patient zero. That is a huge gigantic difference.

Maybe he doesn’t do maths well.
Geometric progression, and all.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The truth is the president (either one) doesn’t have control over the virus.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Oh look, yet another new thesis without even attempting to prove any of the previous ones.

99.4% sure if it.

Nope, I just figured you guys are running out of ammo so I wanted to help you out. What the use of you being on a forum if you can't argue, right? Just doing my part.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The vaccines aren't deadly. You aren't understanding how the vaccine deaths are being reported. If a 90 year old gets the vaccine dies 90 days later of something else then that is counted as a vaccine death. You have to read the article/study that I posted.

https://www.muhealth.org/our-storie...ing-covid-19-vaccination-arent-what-they-seem

How is this ANY different than when someone dies of a heart attack and it is shown that they also had COVID, it being marked as a COVID death?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Trying to use different meanings for words and phrases just because Biden said them doesn't change what he meant. If he said he would "shut down" the virus then he meant "shut down" the virus. How does one shut down the power to something? Do they only mostly turn it off or do they turn it off? Stop making excuses just because you support him. Stupid is stupid no matter what side it is.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

How is this ANY different than when someone dies of a heart attack and it is shown that they also had COVID, it being marked as a COVID death?

BECAUSE THEY AREN’T REPORTING A NON-RELATED-TO-COVID DEATH AS A COVID-RELATED DEATH.
If you get stabbed and bleed out PLUS have Covid, they do not report it as a Covid death.
Claim or feel it all you wants, but it’s not happening. And no one who insists it is has ever been able to offer proof.

Read back a few posts where I offered info from Conservapub-friendly Fox News about how deaths get reported.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

BECAUSE THEY AREN’T REPORTING A NON-RELATED-TO-COVID DEATH AS A COVID-RELATED DEATH.
If you get stabbed and bleed out PLUS have Covid, they do not report it as a Covid death.
Claim or feel it all you wants, but it’s not happening. And no one who insists it is has ever been able to offer proof.

Read back a few posts where I offered info from Conservapub-friendly Fox News about how deaths get reported.

Except that they did. Hospital workers stated this in fact. Including doctors. Which means someone is lying.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Except that they did. Hospital workers stated this in fact. Including doctors. Which means someone is lying.

And they caught one Republican committing voter fraud.
It doesn’t make any difference statistically.

Why they are seeing death certificates is a question to be asked, but here are the guidelines per CDC and DHS, as reported by CBS.
More fake news, I’m sure: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...ates/501-cd4f1995-e342-4451-ae90-a814f1ace284

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

And they caught one Republican committing voter fraud.
It doesn’t make any difference statistically.

Why they are seeing death certificates is a question to be asked, but here are the guidelines per CDC and DHS, as reported by CBS.
More fake news, I’m sure: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...ates/501-cd4f1995-e342-4451-ae90-a814f1ace284

You seem to be under the delusion that everyone does everything by the book. Guess what, they don't.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You seem to be under the delusion that everyone does everything by the book. Guess what, they don't.

No shit. Some people kill others with guns.
Under your delusion, that means EVERYONE with a gun kills someone.
Guess what? They don’t.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

No shit. Some people kill others with guns.
Under your delusion, that means EVERYONE with a gun kills someone.
Guess what? They don’t.

I never insinuated such a thing nor do I think like that. I am a realist. I know that people lie. People are greedy. People are unethical. I know what human nature is. Some people think that just because there are rules and laws that they are followed always and try to base arguments on such a delusion. Would it be nice if all humans were decent and honest? Sure it would, but that is no where near reality.

Your side lies, their side lies, I lie, you lie, everyone lies. Reality is a mother phucker huh? THIS is the world we live in and I know this... this is one of the reasons I don't trust the government as far as I can throw them. As long as they have something to gain, they will lie, cheat and steal.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I never insinuated such a thing nor do I think like that. I am a realist. I know that people lie. People are greedy. People are unethical. I know what human nature is. Some people think that just because there are rules and laws that they are followed always and try to base arguments on such a delusion. Would it be nice if all humans were decent and honest? Sure it would, but that is no where near reality.

Your side lies, their side lies, I lie, you lie, everyone lies. Reality is a mother phucker huh? THIS is the world we live in and I know this... this is one of the reasons I don't trust the government as far as I can throw them. As long as they have something to gain, they will lie, cheat and steal.

Kind of a sideways statement as hospitals aren’t government agencies nor government-run.
You accusation is that hospitals are pegging non-COVID deaths as Covid-caused or Covid-related, and then your support is the government cannot be trusted.

People aren’t making the claim about misrepresented deaths because they think a few have happened. They use it as a de facto
argument that the “numbers are false”. Same as the stupid argument about massive voter fraud happening.
Neither is an issue, but that doesn’t help the narrative, does it?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Kind of a sideways statement as hospitals aren’t government agencies nor government-run.
You accusation is that hospitals are pegging non-COVID deaths as Covid-caused or Covid-related, and then your support is the government cannot be trusted.

People aren’t making the claim about misrepresented deaths because they think a few have happened. They use it as a de facto
argument that the “numbers are false”. Same as the stupid argument about massive voter fraud happening.
Neither is an issue, but that doesn’t help the narrative, does it?

No, I am outright saying hospitals inflated COVID death numbers in order to acquire COVID related funds from the government.

As I said, you don't need to draw your own assumptions on what I mean. I will just tell you.

As for the government not being trustworthy... you tell me why they should be trusted? What have they done to prove they are trustworthy?

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

No, I am outright saying hospitals inflated COVID death numbers in order to acquire COVID related funds from the government.

As I said, you don't need to draw your own assumptions on what I mean. I will just tell you.

As for the government not being trustworthy... you tell me why they should be trusted? What have they done to prove they are trustworthy?

Inflated by how much? Are we talking 2%? If so, then I can accept that, it happens. If you are trying to say by 50% or 60% then I will call you bat shit crazy. Doctors and hospitals were making plenty of money before the pandemic so why would they instantly turn into money grubbing people who would put their careers on the line by lying about somebody's cause of death?