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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Not a talking point, not a narrative, not a Republican talking point and I am not a Republican.

I will break it down even further to its most simple point. Hospitals inflated numbers because nobody would question them and they could get away with it. It's not a political thing, it's a greed thing.

You two kids can't wrap your heads around the fact that just because it's a hospital doesn't mean they won't be unethical and greedy. THEY ARE ALL BUSINESSES. THEY DON'T WORK FOR FREE. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY!!!

Therein lies the insanity of social media, and of people repeating information without doing any due diligence.
This “kid” wraps his head around claims by looking at facts and information, and not simply believing something because it’s what I want to hear.

This rumor about inflating the numbers was started by a Republican senator as a Republican talking point without any substantiation, and immediately went viral on social media. It’s been disproven time and time again, but nitwits are still repeating it as if it’s God’s gospel.

https://m.startribune.com/as-minnes...onspiracy-theorists-pounced-online/569785662/

AHA continues to debunk false claims about COVID-19 deaths and payments | AHA News

For the last several months, disturbing and unproven theories have gained attention about the death count for COVID-19. We find these erroneous and egregious charges leveled against doctors – which have been repeated during the past few weeks – dismaying, disconcerting and disturbing.

www.aha.org

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Therein lies the insanity of social media, and of people repeating information without doing any due diligence.
This “kid” wraps his head around claims by looking at facts and information, and not simply believing something because it’s what I want to hear.

This rumor about inflating the numbers was started by a Republican senator as a Republican talking point without any substantiation, and immediately went viral on social media. It’s been disproven time and time again, but nitwits are still repeating it as if it’s God’s gospel.

https://m.startribune.com/as-minnes...onspiracy-theorists-pounced-online/569785662/

AHA continues to debunk false claims about COVID-19 deaths and payments | AHA News

For the last several months, disturbing and unproven theories have gained attention about the death count for COVID-19. We find these erroneous and egregious charges leveled against doctors – which have been repeated during the past few weeks – dismaying, disconcerting and disturbing.

www.aha.org

Of course they are going to say it's untrue.

It's like the thief who gets caught saying it's not what it looks like, I didn't steal anything. You didn't actually "see" me steal so you can't prove it.

It even says in that article how dire their finances are because of COVID. They are giving you their motivation then telling you they are being 100% ethical. "BELIEVE" them if you want because your "FEELINGS" tell you they would do no wrong. "BELIEVE" them if you think the AHA speaks for all hospitals and doctors. "BELIEVE" whatever makes you feel better. It's why we have the word "NAIVE" and its corresponding definition -

adjective
adjective: naive; comparative adjective: naiver; superlative adjective: naivest; adjective: naïve; comparative adjective: naïver; superlative adjective: naïvest

1. (of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.
   "the rather naive young man had been totally misled"
   

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Of course they are going to say it's untrue.

It's like the thief who gets caught saying it's not what it looks like, I didn't steal anything. You didn't actually "see" me steal so you can't prove it.

It even says in that article how dire their finances are because of COVID. They are giving you their motivation then telling you they are being 100% ethical. "BELIEVE" them if you want because your "FEELINGS" tell you they would do no wrong. "BELIEVE" them if you think the AHA speaks for all hospitals and doctors. "BELIEVE" whatever makes you feel better. It's why we have the word "NAIVE" and its corresponding definition -

adjective
adjective: naive; comparative adjective: naiver; superlative adjective: naivest; adjective: naïve; comparative adjective: naïver; superlative adjective: naïvest

1. (of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.
   "the rather naive young man had been totally misled"
   

They can easily say it’s untrue, because there is no proof of it happening on any meaningful scale.

The senator himself had to backpedal on his own statement when he got called on the carpet.

You mention naïveté. When you accept dubious claims without a second thought, without critical thinking, without due diligence, simply because you. WANT this dubious claims to be true, you are being as naive as a “baby in the woods”.

The guy who started the rumor walked it back, and no one has provided proof. The subject of the rumor has provided clarification of the reality. Yet, you hang onto it like a pit bull on a tire, because you desperately WANT it to be true.
Facts do not matter to you when you WANT and NEED a rumor to be true in order to support your narrative, feelings, beliefs.

The old joke about people buying bridges is based on that way of thinking. They so badly want that deal to be true, they’ll disregard every FACT and evidence that tells them to run the other way, and shell over the cash.
Do you give your bank info to Namibian princes who want to pay you to hold their fortune for a while?
If not WHY not? They said they were telling the truth? Why can’t you believe THEM without proof?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

They can easily say it’s untrue, because there is no proof of it happening on any meaningful scale.

The senator himself had to backpedal on his own statement when he got called on the carpet.

You mention naïveté. When you accept dubious claims without a second thought, without critical thinking, without due diligence, simply because you. WANT this dubious claims to be true, you are being as naive as a “baby in the woods”.

The guy who started the rumor walked it back, and no one has provided proof. The subject of the rumor has provided clarification of the reality. Yet, you hang onto it like a pit bull on a tire, because you desperately WANT it to be true.
Facts do not matter to you when you WANT and NEED a rumor to be true in order to support your narrative, feelings, beliefs.

The old joke about people buying bridges is based on that way of thinking. They so badly want that deal to be true, they’ll disregard every FACT and evidence that tells them to run the other way, and shell over the cash.
Do you give your bank info to Namibian princes who want to pay you to hold their fortune for a while?
If not WHY not? They said they were telling the truth? Why can’t you believe THEM without proof?

Meaningful scale... Meaningful is an emotion. You flip flopping back pedaler.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So there are boosters after boosters... Why are they not making the vaccine with the boosters already in it. Why haven't they modified the vaccine?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

So there are boosters after boosters... Why are they not making the vaccine with the boosters already in it. Why haven't they modified the vaccine?

Because it's not a vaccine, and $$$

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

You are trying to punish people for choosing differently than you. That's the fucked up part. Why not keep vaccinated kids home instead? Or do they deserve to go to school because they agree with you?

You don't know if my kids are vaccinated or not. Choosing not to do something that could potentially make somebody else sick or Heaven forbid die is a different story. We've been vaccinating for generations already so what's the difference? If I wasn't vaccinated then I couldn't go to school. So, my parents got me vaccinated. Sounds pretty simple to me.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

You don't know if my kids are vaccinated or not. Choosing not to do something that could potentially make somebody else sick or Heaven forbid die is a different story. We've been vaccinating for generations already so what's the difference? If I wasn't vaccinated then I couldn't go to school. So, my parents got me vaccinated. Sounds pretty simple to me.

None of those vaccines are MRNA based. The functioning of MRNA nanotech is in a COMPLETELY different category of medical technology than any other vaccines, ever, and it's called gene therapy.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

.....and that's the wayyyyy the news goes.....

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Meaningful scale... Meaningful is an emotion. You flip flopping back pedaler.

No, no it’s not.
“Meaningful” can be directly measured. A penny is not meaningful when you have $100.00. A dollar isn’t when you have a thousand.
When you claim something is relevant in the context of recording 788,000 deaths, you had better provide more than AN example. You have to proved proof of widespread occurrence.

Nice attempt at accusing me of flip-flopping, but I have done no such thing. Try harder.

Meaningful - having a serious, important, or useful quality or purpose.

 

[Jesus Christ]

flip flop flip flop flip flop.....lol, fucking hilarious

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

None of those vaccines are MRNA based. The functioning of MRNA nanotech is in a COMPLETELY different category of medical technology than any other vaccines, ever, and it's called gene therapy.

None of those vaccines are MRNA based. The functioning of MRNA nanotech is in a COMPLETELY different category of medical technology than any other vaccines, ever, and it's called gene therapy.

Don't care. It saves lives. Get your kids vaccinated or keep them at home. It's your choice. I'm guessing that you don't have kids anyway.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Don't care. It saves lives. Get your kids vaccinated or keep them at home. It's your choice. I'm guessing that you don't have kids anyway.

Please go watch how WW2 started with Germany, and you should pay very close attention to how the unvaccinated are being treated today in the same fashion as the Jews were right before WW2 broke out. Times and technology are different today, but how many nations are treating the unvaccinated is extremely similar to how the 3rd Reich treated the Jews. They didn't have a UN back in WW2 to run the whole program world-wide.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

"The United Nations member states are the 193 sovereign states that are members of the United Nations (UN) and have equal representation in the UN General Assembly.[1] The UN is the world's largest intergovernmental organization."

Member states of the United Nations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Currently, the U.N. recognizes 193 countries as member states. It also recognizes two "observers states", the Holy See/Vatican City and Palestine, which are self-ruling territories but not full-fledged countries."

"Then there's Wikipedia's list of sovereign states, which mirrors the U.N.'s list of 193 countries and two observer states, then adds eleven sovereign states, including Taiwan, Kosovo, Northern Cyprus, Cook Islands, and more for a total of 206."

193/206 UN- Pledged Countries.

"Other sources use a less rigid definition of country and give dependent and disputed territories such as Greenland and the Gaza Strip their own separate listings. This is the reason the United States' CIA Factbook lists 237 countries."

How Many Countries are there in the World?

Comprehensive overview of the total number of countries around the world, including information on population, land area, continent, subregion, and UN membership.

worldpopulationreview.com

Member States | United Nations

www.un.org

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WHO?

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www.who.int

"Things you don’t learn in medical school: Caduceus"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4439707/\

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/caduceus ^^^

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

You don't know if my kids are vaccinated or not. Choosing not to do something that could potentially make somebody else sick or Heaven forbid die is a different story. We've been vaccinating for generations already so what's the difference? If I wasn't vaccinated then I couldn't go to school. So, my parents got me vaccinated. Sounds pretty simple to me.

Address my point or don't reply.

Edit: im sick of the tangents. You want vaccinated and unvaccinated separated. Cool. Why do unvaccinated have to stay home? You'd achieve the same effect by making vaccinated stay home. The difference is you are pro vaccine, so you want to punish those who aren't.