What exactly is the deal with Taramps?

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

People try to get a lot for nothing then something goes wrong. How ever you look at it these amps are not designed for us they are designed for South America where they don't have 300 amp alternators and run huge battery banks. In the end the cost is still going to be the same if you design your electrical around whatever amp you use. You can run a huge bank and run iffy power or you can run alternators with bullet proof power. Add up the cost and it's going to be close. It's the same as batteries. You can run a few cheap ones, add weight, add connections. Or you can run less better ones and not add weight or need more connections. They cost about the same.

Same for speakers. You can run a few cheap ones and have to custom mount them or you can run one high end and the cost is about the same.

TL/dr. Nothing is free

 

[fatboytyler]

So basically what I am hearing is that they are pretty good amps as long as you don't plan on competing or abuse them. So being conservative on the gain and I could even run the 8K at 4 0hm and see over 6k RMS still. Thanks T3mpest for the very informational post.

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

go read the thread on caco, should answer all your questions.

My 2 cents, they're a little too picky for my liking. Korean amps are pretty idiot proof and I can be an idiot at times lol

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

Is this a typo or am i missing something big here?

Your missing impedance rise.. I'm talking real power. When you wire a speaker to 1ohm it's actual load is usually nowhere near 1ohm over most of it's range, reducing power output from the amp. Most Koreans are rated at 1ohm, to get rated from them on a burp you wire at 1/2 or even 1/4 ohm and with rise, you end up close to one ohm putting out full power. Daily they can't do that though, they are ran at 1ohm or maybe .5 and end up at 2-4ohms after rise, sometimes more.

Brazilians can't be wired lower than nominal, so you wire the amp to a 1ohm load and it rises 2-4x that for daily. However, Brazilians put out more voltage than koreans, which means you get more power at a higher impedance.

Look at Tfades test on the Ampere Audio 7500.1..

Beastly Korean.

1ohm resistive 7100 watts, that's like burping it at .25ohm, which it can handle just fine. If you can rise less, and raise voltage, it'll do 10k at like .6 something ohms lol.

However.. At 2.5ohms resistive, so a nominal one ohm load on music, give or take, it'll only do 3000 watts with 86% effeciency

Compare that to a Taramps hd8k

If you try that 1ohm resistive, you'll break it before you ever get "rated" or more out of it. However, if you wire a sub to it at that nominal load and you get the usual 2-4x rise, it'll be pretty beasly in a non burp scenario

At 5ohms, it puts out 2,500w @ 5 ohms and 13.1v with an impressive 91% efficiency. Nearly the same power as the ampere audio, at 2x the impedance and more effeciency to boot..

At 2.5 ohms, same as the ampere was test it at, it's good for . 4,850w @ 2.5 ohms and 12.3v. Effeciency was still in the mid upper 90's, 1.5x the power, more effecient to boot.

Comparing pricing, the ampere costs about 2x the Taramps. However, it can put out a real 10k for short burst by wiring it low where as the Taramps will do 5-6k for a burp. However on music you can def see where brazilians are attractive when dealing with normal loads for daily. For the average guy wiring his sundown woofers to one ohm, you'll get more power in a smaller footprint for less money for music using brazilians, trying to copy competiors and using a beefy korean makes no sense.. They excel at totally different things.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Will you please elaborate as to why any 8k is a gamble? As I have also been considering the Taramps 8k.

Pretty much all of the 8K Korean amps are a re-hash of the XXV Sampson. The problem is that the antiquated class D chip they use is pretty much only designed to drive about 2KW output worth of transistors. They are all time bombs above that, and the bigger they are the more prone they are to random self destruct issues.

Like I said, I've had good luck with the Brazilian stuff, but on general principal I'd say that anything really big is a gamble. The voltage/current required to make 8KW+ is really scary and a lot can go drastically wrong very easily.