What did you think was loud?

[Etac 10+ year member]

very low are hard to detect, as you get even slightly higher, they become more easy..

and crossover point also comes into affect..

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

thats not always based on how loud it may be..

True. For playing an orchestral piece at full volume, even if the subs are handling just 35Hz and below, that's a lot of air that needs to be moved. But even then, they should stay at a realistic level...not become what you notice. Even if that's at a pretty high volume.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Why does it matter where the sound is coming from?

Because if you're trying to reproduce what you hear on a stage, it does no good if the horn section is in front of you, and the kettle drums are sitting in the lobby somewhere //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

If you've ever heard a vehicle (or home setup) really set up for sound quality, you don't want the sound stage being pulled back by subbass. Low frequencies may be omnidirectional, but in a vehicle they can be a dead giveaway...and even at home you have room modes you have to fight to get subbass that's without peaks and dips.

 

[Customkilla23]

True. For playing an orchestral piece at full volume, even if the subs are handling just 35Hz and below, that's a lot of air that needs to be moved. But even then, they should stay at a realistic level...not become what you notice. Even if that's at a pretty high volume.

If you're talking about making your substage louder, you're not talking about "SQL". Period.

i found this in your sig, care to explain?

 

[Gavriley2007 10+ year member]

140-145 on music is nice IMO

 

[mbaoo]

When I have to talk loud so the person next to me can hear what Im saying.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

"Sound Quality Loud" is just a stupid term to me. It's like someone didn't realize that pure SQ can be loud - very loud, in fact. Volume has nothing to do with it. So it's typically used as some sort of compromise between SPL and SQ...for people who want to "hear the words", basically. That's not SQ, that's just SPL with more attention paid to what's above 100Hz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

That comment was trying to make the point that if you really want a loud SQ setup, the first thing to do is work on your midbasses/midranges/tweets and make sure they're capable of high dynamics first. That's really where the work is.

 

[Customkilla23]

When I have to talk loud so the person next to me can hear what Im saying.

i've heard stock setups that are that loud

 

[Pioneer~Saturn 5,000+ posts]

When I have to talk loud so the person next to me can hear what Im saying.

...more like yelling as loud as you can and they still cant understand you..

 

[Customkilla23]

...more like yelling as loud as you can and they still cant understand you..

that must be approximately 138 deebeeeezz

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

"Sound Quality Loud" is just a stupid term to me. It's like someone didn't realize that pure SQ can be loud - very loud, in fact. Volume has nothing to do with it. So it's typically used as some sort of compromise between SPL and SQ...for people who want to "hear the words", basically. That's not SQ, that's just SPL with more attention paid to what's above 100Hz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
That comment was trying to make the point that if you really want a loud SQ setup, the first thing to do is work on your midbasses/midranges/tweets and make sure they're capable of high dynamics first. That's really where the work is.

A lot of the time when people say SQL they're talking about bass.

 

[Pioneer~Saturn 5,000+ posts]

that must be approximately 138 deebeeeezz

130 decibels!!!!!!! Tell me more, Mad Mike!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

150db daily is plenty loud for me

 

[mbaoo]

i've heard stock setups that are that loud

Yea, and they always sound like shit when doing it.

I usually listen to my music at reasonable levels. So when I have to start yelling its getting loud for me. I could push my system beyond that point Im sure, but there is no point as I wont enjoy one second of it.

 

[skittlesRgood 10+ year member]

138db is plenty loud daily. remember that 120db is damaging to your ears and every 3db increase is 2x as loud.