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Silencers are illegal unless you have a special permit, which from my understanding is extremely difficult to obtain. Police do not want silenced weapons floating around, for obvious reasons. Getting caught with a silenced gun is about as bad as getting caught with a full-auto gun... prison time.
No. That is just myth. The police don't make the laws. His profile says Reno. Silencers and full auto guns are legal and common there. They are legal under federal law, but some states ban them. Like Cali, NY, NJ, etc. There is no permit. All that is needed for him, is a visit to a local gun shop that is licenced to handle them to pick out the one you want (most in nevada are). Silencers cost between $400 - $2000 each. Full auto guns are very expensive because no new ones could be made after 1985. $2500 - $25,000. A federal application, background check and a $200 tax stamp (which will act as a type of registration). Silencers are easier and cheaper to get.

Silencers can protect your hearing, keep from annoying or scarring people when your shooting nearby. In Europe silencers are sold over the counter at hardware stores without special paperwork and there is no crimminal stigma attached to thier use. It is considered very rude, and frequently illegal, to shoot without a silencer.

 
My current favorite gun is the Ruger GP 100 SS 6" 357 Magnum, loaded with 158 Buffallo Bore ammo @ 802 FT/lbs! That used to be considered 44 mag territory.

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For concealed carry it's hard to beat the good old S&W model 60 SS in 357 magnum.

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No. That is just myth. The police don't make the laws. His profile says Reno. Silencers and full auto guns are legal and common there. They are legal under federal law, but some states ban them. Like Cali, NY, NJ, etc. There is no permit. All that is needed for him, is a visit to a local gun shop that is licenced to handle them to pick out the one you want (most in nevada are). Silencers cost between $400 - $2000 each. Full auto guns are very expensive because no new ones could be made after 1985. $2500 - $25,000. A federal application, background check and a $200 tax stamp (which will act as a type of registration). Silencers are easier and cheaper to get.
Silencers can protect your hearing, keep from annoying or scarring people when your shooting nearby. In Europe silencers are sold over the counter at hardware stores without special paperwork and there is no crimminal stigma attached to thier use. It is considered very rude, and frequently illegal, to shoot without a silencer.
"The United States taxes and strictly regulates the manufacture and sale of suppressors under the National Firearms Act. They are legal for individuals to possess and use for lawful purposes in thirty-eight of the fifty states.[16] However, a prospective user must go through an application process administered by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which requires a Federal tax payment of USD 200.00 and a thorough criminal background check. The USD 200.00 buys a tax stamp, which is the legal document allowing possession of a silencer." - Suppressor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You said my comment was a myth, then go on to admit you have to have a permit to own one (exactly what i said). A thorough background check, including fingerprinting, a $200 tax stamp (for each silencer) and a local official signing off that you can have one (which he can deny if you do not pose any better reason to own one than you just want one) is exactly what i said also, "very difficult to obtain".

 
I like my grandfathers Rossi Snub nose 357 Mag for just general carrying and i like the Ruger Redhawk 44 with a lightened trigger for longer range shootings, i believe its a 8" barrel but i havnt had it in a while.

 
"The United States taxes and strictly regulates the manufacture and sale of suppressors under the National Firearms Act. They are legal for individuals to possess and use for lawful purposes in thirty-eight of the fifty states.[16] However, a prospective user must go through an application process administered by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which requires a Federal tax payment of USD 200.00 and a thorough criminal background check. The USD 200.00 buys a tax stamp, which is the legal document allowing possession of a silencer." - Suppressor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You said my comment was a myth, then go on to admit you have to have a permit to own one (exactly what i said). A thorough background check, including fingerprinting, a $200 tax stamp (for each silencer) and a local official signing off that you can have one (which he can deny if you do not pose any better reason to own one than you just want one) is exactly what i said also, "very difficult to obtain".
Wouldnt that be a violation of the constitution.

 
My current favorite gun is the Ruger GP 100 SS 6" 357 Magnum, loaded with 158 Buffallo Bore ammo @ 802 FT/lbs! That used to be considered 44 mag territory.
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For concealed carry it's hard to beat the good old S&W model 60 SS in 357 magnum.

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nice.....i have better aim with autos than revolvers personally

 
Maybe its just me, but Ive always felt a .44 mag and ultralight are a contradiction. Ultralight implies concealed carry, but a .44 mag is not exactly small. To each their own, but that's how I see it. I do like my Taurus ultralight, its a quality piece, but its not a .44 magnum.
I like the .357 too , either are hardly conceal weapons , just nice big bore , in a nice lite package , I love my .45 but there is nothing like dumping bigbore +P loads at someone ! ! i mean something //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
You said they are illegal and difficult to obtain (without a permit). I say they are legal. It's just symatincs. The tax stamp is not a permit, it's basically a registration. The application for the tax stamp is little more than a regular NSIC background check plus fingerprints and a long delay. Silencers are becoming more popular due to thier practical usefullness. We are basically saying the same thing, but I'm pointing out how they are legal and common, you're pointing out how they are not legal "unless".

You could also say getting caught with perscription drugs is "illegal" unless you have a perscription. Getting caught with a car on the road is illlegal, unless you have a registration, insurance and drivers license. Getting caught with a 50 foot wrecking ball crane tearing down a building in downtown is illegal, unless you have all the permits. Or you can also say all these things are "legal" if you do it legally. In general having a gun, car or medicine is "illegal" unless you do it legally.

Silencers are legal, common and thier use should be encouraged, not discouraged.

Silencers are illegal unless you have a special permit...
They are legal for individuals to possess and use for lawful purposes in thirty-eight of the fifty states.
unless you have a special permit, which from my understanding is extremely difficult to obtain. Police do not want silenced weapons floating around, for obvious reasons. Getting caught with a silenced gun is about as bad as getting caught with a full-auto gun... prison time.
 

Also what the police want is irrelevent. Silencers and full auto are legal.

 
Wouldnt that be a violation of the constitution.
Not really. All rights, even fundamental rights like speech, arms or religion, are still subject to "reasonable" restrictions. Silencers are legal and thier is a legal method to get them in most states. You just have to jump thru a few hoops. It's not as bad as audioholic makes it sound. I know people who own them. I may get one myself. "Collection" is a common and valid "reason" for the purchace. Some local LEO don't like to do the sign off for anyone just because they are pricks, but you can go around that by setting up a trust. It's legal and just requires a little bit of research online and some more paperwork. Some people prefer to do this so they don't have to let their local sherrif know what they are buying. Local sherrif's have a habit of making copies of all the forums and keeping a "file" on the purchase, which they are not supposed to do, but no one stops them either. A trust allows you to skip the local LEO sign off and just pass the background check. If you can pass a standard check to purchase a gun, you can pass the application for the $200 tax stamp.

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