careful careful careful jtmoney, lol.
you starrt badmouthing stuff liek jensen which actually ahs some stuff bordering on decent, adn you can be laible to start a nice big long argument lol.
In a good install, even the worst subs can sound great.....
although i stand by my origianl statement that the volfenhag subs are overrated, and not liable to last as long as some otehrs....