USACi New Classes and Power Ratings for 2007

[Alpineinstaller 10+ year member]

Im am going to try and participate a lot more in the Texas Bass Shows next year.

x2, hopefully justin will have a biase towards me

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

Actually I am unsure what I am doing next year with TBP...May hand over SQ to another person and just compete myself. May keep going and actually push the org. to its fullest. If I do, I will start to expect a better form of monetary gain //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[Alpineinstaller 10+ year member]

Sucki, Sucki?

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

I like Jaffe/Matt Sibey/Gabe/jim's Idea...I like the Idea of bringing back basic stock.

To a degree I have to applaud Ralph’s efforts to give us all something to embrace as a new format for fairly derived power classes. The major fault I see in it is the same problem that has plagued us since forever … our need to depend on the stated power ratings of amplifiers by their respective manufacturers.

Some months ago, Ralph asked a few of us directors to find a way to classify competition systems without using power ratings as the base for it. In a nutshell, it didn’t fly! But what a few of us came up with is what you see below. While it still has us somewhat using manufacturer’s stated ratings, I think that the limitation of batteries might be a sensible way to limit the classes. What follows is the complete text sent to Ralph on September 1st.

Here is my first proposal for an anticipated rules change with the first order of business being to make the use and manufacturing of “cheater amplifiers” a waste of time and money. While it is admittedly not fool proof, I hope you’ll find it to be a step in the right direction.

Before I get into the details, I want to thank Gabe Sanchez, Matt Sibley and Jim Pitcher for their input to this proposal. If you like it then I want all the credit. If, in your opinion it stinks, then they are the ones to blame.

First order of business was to address “Basic Stock.” I am proposing to bring that division back into play. Basic Stock is the place where the majority of first time competitors play to get their feet wet. It should provide the fairest and most level of playing fields for all who wish to participate in it. Hopefully you’ll agree that these classes help to achieve that goal:

Basic Stock power classes and limitations:

1-500 watts 1 amp, 1 battery, 1 upgraded alternator, 14.7 volts

501-1000 watts 1 amp, 1 battery, 1 upgraded alternator, 14.7 volts

1001 & Up watts 4 amps, 2 batteries, 1 upgraded alternator, 14.7 volts

This division has been reduced to 3 power classes for a few reasons. The old Stock and Super Stock 1801 & Up classes simply had little if any reason to exist and had less competitors in it than any others. Running over 1800 watts on a single 12 volt battery is an exercise in futility and the scores from the 2005 Finals will bear me out on that appraisal. Secondly, the object was also to bring Basic Stock to being just that, basic and stock. For the most part, we approved the proposal of Matt Sibley for the remaining divisions. If you’ll notice, when a Basic Stock competitor feels his or her Cheerios and decides to step up and play in Super Stock or Modified, the classes he proposed provides an almost painless segue for him or her.

What is changed in Matt’s proposal is merely the name of Pro Stock to Super Stock. Two reasons for the change. The actual reason for the creation of Pro Stock was to provide a division for an employee or owner of a car audio store to compete with a stock vehicle without having to compete against his own customers. When we stated that a competitor could compete in Pro Stock by choice, that ended the proprietary nature of it. Also, if we want Basic Stock competitors to make the move up, I felt that the name “Pro” was more intimidating than the word “Super.” So for all intents and purposes, in this proposal, “Super Stock” replaces “Pro Stock” but everything else about them (Pro Stock or Super Stock) stays the same.

This is a copy of a portion of Matt’s offering:

Super Stock:

0-1000 two battery limit, 2 amp limit

1001-2000, 4 battery limit, 4 amp limit

2001-4000, 8 battery limit, 8 amp limit

4001+, no limits on batteries or amps, voltage capped at 18.0 VDC.

Modified:

0-1000 two battery limit, 2 amp limit

1001-2000, 4 battery limit, 4 amp limit

2001-4000, 8 battery limit, 8 amp limit

4001+, no limits on batteries or amps, voltage capped at 18.0 VDC.

Super Modified:

0-1000 2 amp limit

1001-2000 4 amp limit

2001-4000 8 amp limit

4001+ no limit on amps, no battery limitations in any super modified class, voltage capped at 18.0 VDC.

This offering is in no way meant to create any confusion or contempt from my leader. I will not feel badly if he opts to delete it. It is meant as another thing to think about and to see whether any of the readers feel it has any merit.

Maybe I’m just being selfish because I don’t want to make an event take more time because I’d need to use a calculator to register them.

_________________

Mike Jaffe

USACi Event Director, Southwest Region

http://www.caraudioevents.com

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

Actually I am unsure what I am doing next year with TBP...May hand over SQ to another person and just compete myself. May keep going and actually push the org. to its fullest. If I do, I will start to expect a better form of monetary gain //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

Yeah...instead of a drug deal looking transaction with your money from judging SQ. lol

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

I doubt Ralph will change it now...Jaffy obvously doesnt agree with Ralph and wanted to make his/thier voices public.

Just how I see it...

Chevy, Did I mention that TBP is starting to have a few shows in longview //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

Yeah...you told me about the longview shows...also After a few emails with scott, it seems as if im going to be using 2 SSD 10s instead of the BTL 12. Gives me alot more flexabilty with box design...with the 10s for a comp box Looks like both upfiring with dual 4 inch aeros firing out the pass. side. Ill be opting for the Flat Wound coils to get RMS up a little. Probably will end up giving in 1200 a piece for daily and around 2k for a burp if they can handle it.

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

Yeah...you told me about the longview shows...also After a few emails with scott, it seems as if im going to be using 2 SSD 10s instead of the BTL 12. Gives me alot more flexabilty with box design...with the 10s for a comp box Looks like both upfiring with dual 4 inch aeros firing out the pass. side. Ill be opting for the Flat Wound coils to get RMS up a little. Probably will end up giving in 1200 a piece for daily and around 2k for a burp if they can handle it.

Sounds like a good plan //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Let me know if you plan on coming down for a build weekend.

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

Tell me what you think about the weekend of the 29th...if nothing else there is a TBP show that weekend and if I dont have the subs by then (I should) We can just build a box and ill come back and to testing when the subs come in.

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

Tell me what you think about the weekend of the 29th...if nothing else there is a TBP show that weekend and if I dont have the subs by then (I should) We can just build a box and ill come back and to testing when the subs come in.

I am free that weekend...

Sounds like a plan. Let me know if you need a place to crash.

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

Me and Blake might come...Just PMd him. A place to crash would be awsome.