Trump being Trump

I have an axe to grind with those who demand that OTHERS believe the fairy tales, and live THEIR lives according to the rules of the fairy tale believers.

I have an even bigger axe to grind with the "believers" who are more than happy to impose their beliefs on others, while living their hidden lives that are in complete contradiction to their claimed beliefs.
Hypocrisy really annoys the phuq out of me.
Who is demanding that others believe believe their fairy tales?
 
Yep. And how many of Team Blue came out against celebrating Kirk's assassination - maybe 1%. How many came out against calls for continued assassinations - maybe 1%. See the difference?
And this has exactly WAHT to do with the right being anti-homosexual?

And I would bet that FAR more fo the left came out agianst the Kirk shooting, than the right came out against what Vance Boelter did.

Where was Trump's declaration of war against the right for Boelter and his list of Democrat targets?
I'll wait for a link to it.
Get over it. You just want to ***** and moan and if Trump was doing something else, you'd be bitching and moaning about that.
If Trump did something useful and helpful, I woub't complain about it.

As opposed to the people who want Biden jailed for doing exactly what he was SUPPOSED to do:

Really, you're gonna cite Title 42 expulsions during a pandemic. Do you think before you post?
Are they not deportations? Does the pandemic make a deportation NOT a deportation?
What EO did Trump sign in 2025 that resulted in all the deportations under Biden?
 
I don't get it. What does either of his crimes have to do with politics???
Nothing at all, except if he was trans or a liberal, the right would be having an aneurism about how sexuality causes peopel to murder.

In this case, it's just another right-winger who's a pervert and a murderer. No aneurism by the right. no declaration of war against his type.
Typical hypocrisy.
 
And this has exactly WAHT to do with the right being anti-homosexual?
We were discussing Collective Narcissism. You brought up homosexuality as some sort of proof that the right suffers from collective narcissism. Clearly a horrible example.
And I would bet that FAR more fo the left came out agianst the Kirk shooting, than the right came out against what Vance Boelter did.
I doubt it, but let's call it a draw and admit it would have great to see more condemnation in both cases. I know beyond a shadow of doubt, there was a lot less (if any) celebrating of Boelter's actions. I know beyond a shadow of doubt that the left continued to push for violence and more assassinations.
 
Nothing at all, except if he was trans or a liberal, the right would be having an aneurism about how sexuality causes people to murder.

In this case, it's just another right-winger who's a pervert and a murderer. No aneurism by the right. no declaration of war against his type.
Typical hypocrisy.
The right has been claiming sexuality causes people to murder? Any examples?
 
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And I would bet that FAR more fo the left came out agianst the Kirk shooting, than the right came out against what Vance Boelter did.

Where was Trump's declaration of war against the right for Boelter and his list of Democrat targets?
I'll wait for a link to it.
I really haven't seen thorough evidence boelter did that for a political reason.



"At a federal prosecutor’s news conference on Monday, U.S. Attorney Joseph Thompson told reporters that “it’s pretty clear from evidence that he’s been planning these attacks for quite some time,” and that “voluminous writings” had been “found both in his car and his house, about his planning, lists of names and individuals.”

“But I have not seen anything involving some sort of political screed or manifesto that would clearly identify what motivated him,” Thompson added. “Obviously, his primary motive was to go out and murder people. They were all elected officials. They were all Democrats. Beyond that, I think it’s just way too speculative for anyone that’s reviewed these materials to know and to say what was motivating him in terms of ideology or specific issues.”"


I mean where are you getting this info from where he was politically motivated for the right? I mean if he really was, wouldn't that be all over the left wing news? I don't get it, I can't find anything on it like you are saying it is. You're asking people to apologize for something that isn't proven...why?
 
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You should know btetr than to presume I'd say something I can;t back up with fact.
Unlike you, I don't just make **** up as I go, hoping no one will question it:
Wow, that's fake.
So do heterosexual men. With women. So heterosexuality is the "dark side", too.
Since they are both the "dark side", what ISN'T the "dark side"?
I am aware. I have had anal intercourse with many women. Still the Dark Side.
So you think male homosexuality is gross. But no judgement, huh?
I said **** on my dick is gross. Where did I lose you?
 
Uhmm, try to keep up.
ThxOne is the guy who immediately equates homsexuality to butt play.
Maybe you should first be asking him why he thinks gay=anus.

Then, you can ask him why he thinks homosexuality AND heterosexuality are "the dark side", since butt play happens in both of those circles. It ain't my thing, but it's been happening for eons.

If they are BOTH the "dark side", what is NOT the "dark side"? Celibacy?
Like I said Rob LOLOL it's not all blow jobs and cuddling. Butt play... duh, do you not know any gay men?
 
I really haven't seen thorough evidence boelter did that for a political reason.



"At a federal prosecutor’s news conference on Monday, U.S. Attorney Joseph Thompson told reporters that “it’s pretty clear from evidence that he’s been planning these attacks for quite some time,” and that “voluminous writings” had been “found both in his car and his house, about his planning, lists of names and individuals.”

“But I have not seen anything involving some sort of political screed or manifesto that would clearly identify what motivated him,” Thompson added. “Obviously, his primary motive was to go out and murder people. They were all elected officials. They were all Democrats. Beyond that, I think it’s just way too speculative for anyone that’s reviewed these materials to know and to say what was motivating him in terms of ideology or specific issues.”"


I mean where are you getting this info from where he was politically motivated for the right? I mean if he really was, wouldn't that be all over the left wing news? I don't get it, I can't find anything on it like you are saying it is. You're asking people to apologize for something that isn't proven...why?
It appears Rob is assuming that since Boelter was a republican and the targets were Dems, that it was political. OTOH, Boelter wrote a letter claiming Walz threaten to kill his family if he didn't off a bunch of prominent Dem officials. To me that suggests 3 possible motives.

1) He's telling the truth and did it under coercion from Walz.
2) He's decided to commit these murders for political reasons and created this Tim Walz backstory to either take Walz down as part of his master plan or to lay the grounds for an insanity plea.
3) He's actually insane.
 
I really haven't seen thorough evidence boelter did that for a political reason.

“But I have not seen anything involving some sort of political screed or manifesto that would clearly identify what motivated him,” Thompson added. “Obviously, his primary motive was to go out and murder people. They were all elected officials. They were all Democrats. Beyond that, I think it’s just way too speculative for anyone that’s reviewed these materials to know and to say what was motivating him in terms of ideology or specific issues.”"

I find it curious that left wing sources for the most part have ignored this letter. My initial assumption was that it was politically motivated because of media bias. The letter adds a new layer to Boelter's motives and/or state of mind.

 
I find it curious that left wing sources for the most part have ignored this letter. My initial assumption was that it was politically motivated because of media bias. The letter adds a new layer to Boelter's motives and/or state of mind.

Yeah it's all so bizarre. It's just weird it involves Walz and all according to dude, like Walz is weird and a commie so idk.
 
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We were discussing Collective Narcissism. You brought up homosexuality as some sort of proof that the right suffers from collective narcissism. Clearly a horrible example.
False.
I brought up the right demanding that all people adhere to THEIR beliefs on homosexuality as collective narcissism. I could have brought up the right demanding that all people adhere to THEIR beliefs on abortion as collective narcissism. I could have brought up the right demanding that the Ten Commandments remain at public courthouses across the country, until SCOTUS said "no way".
Or the right demanding that all people adhere to ANY of their beliefs, as collective narcissism.

Or do you wish to deny that the right tries to impose their belief structure on the country as a whole?
Consider things like: Mandated school prayer; abortion rights; blue laws; LGBTQ rights; the aforementioned Ten Commandments issue; puritanical "anti-pornography" regulations.

Do you think there is an Establishment Clause in the First Amendment simply because the founders were bored?
Do you think it's been part of so many lawsuits because the Christian right WASN'T trying to impose their beliefs on others?
collective narcissism - A strong, often unrealistic, belief in the group's uniqueness and greatness

The Christian right feels they are so great and unique, that their beliefs must be the beliefs of ALL Americans.
No thank you.
I doubt it, but let's call it a draw and admit it would have great to see more condemnation in both cases. I know beyond a shadow of doubt, there was a lot less (if any) celebrating of Boelter's actions. I know beyond a shadow of doubt that the left continued to push for violence and more assassinations.
And I suppose we'll just be expected to let it go with what you "know beyond a shadow of a doubt" (a verbatim quote, BTW).
Or are you able to provide any solid evidence on that?
 
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I really haven't seen thorough evidence boelter did that for a political reason.
Specifically targeting politicians is a political reason, until there is some other common thread between all of them that is discovered.

"They were all elected officials. They were all Democrats."

Tyler Robinson kills Charlie Kirk and specifically states it's due to kirk spreading hatred, but within minutes it's a "political assassination" (Kirk was NOT a politician) by a "radicalized liberal" (from a pretty much 100% right-wing family) and we must "go to war on the liberals".

Vance Boelter goes on a murder spree, and has a list of specifically Democrat elected officials that he wants to kill, but we can't jump to a conclusion that there was political motivation?

Are you thinking maybe he had special glasses and could see through their outer skin to the real beings inside?
Maybe he realized they all wore something red on the first Tuesday of every month?

If there was a common thread/reason, why would it not be part of his writings? He bothered to write down the plot that Waltz gave him the orders on two people (which was a political reason).
Why not write down why the rest of the Democrats were on the list?
Why were there not Republican lawmakers?

Occam's Razor.




"At a federal prosecutor’s news conference on Monday, U.S. Attorney Joseph Thompson told reporters that “it’s pretty clear from evidence that he’s been planning these attacks for quite some time,” and that “voluminous writings” had been “found both in his car and his house, about his planning, lists of names and individuals.”

“But I have not seen anything involving some sort of political screed or manifesto that would clearly identify what motivated him,” Thompson added. “Obviously, his primary motive was to go out and murder people. They were all elected officials. They were all Democrats. Beyond that, I think it’s just way too speculative for anyone that’s reviewed these materials to know and to say what was motivating him in terms of ideology or specific issues.”"


I mean where are you getting this info from where he was politically motivated for the right? I mean if he really was, wouldn't that be all over the left wing news? I don't get it, I can't find anything on it like you are saying it is. You're asking people to apologize for something that isn't proven...why?
Occam/s Razor.

his hit list was Democrat lawmakers. he claimed two on his list were hits so that Waltz could advance in politics. You kill someone to help someone else advance in politics, and that's a political murder, no matter HOW you want to paint it as something else.
It's the very definition of a political murder.

Do you disagree?
 
I find it curious that left wing sources for the most part have ignored this letter. My initial assumption was that it was politically motivated because of media bias. The letter adds a new layer to Boelter's motives and/or state of mind.

I'm not a subscriber so I can;t open that, but there is an absence of access to this letter from all walks of media.
Google it and tell me how many right wing media outlets share it.

On my search results, the first three pages only have two from Fox, and they simply say a letter was found.
This was at the bottom of the third page. The first result that has the full letter imaged. I think she works for NBC, which is considered "left leaning" (?)
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Why didn't the right wing make the full letter front-page news on every outlet that they have?
 
Wow, that's fake.
Of course it is. Anything that doesn't fit your fantasy narrative is "fake news".
Everyone knows Gallup has been faking their polls for decades, just to make you look bad on this site.

Just like when it was faked that Blue states are Red, so that the welfare numbers would make the faked Red states look bad for the right.
Just like the economy stats that have been faked for 75 years to make the GOP look bad.
Just like when Gray's Anatomy was faked in 1918 to make you look dumb for saying bones do not have nerves in them.
Just like when they faked the circuit symbol for an op-amp in the 1950's, to make you look dumb today for claiming that a mono amp has multiple outputs.
Just like when Einstein faked the Theory of General Relativity in 1915, so you would look dumb today for staing that "time is constant".


I am aware. I have had anal intercourse with many women. Still the Dark Side.
So you are homosexual?
Or do you mean homosexuality and heterosexuality are both the dark side?

I said **** on my dick is gross. Where did I lose you?
Yet you choose to have that kind of sex with women, when you could do it the way it' supposed to be done with them?
But you think gay people are gross for doing it.
 
False.
I brought up the right demanding that all people adhere to THEIR beliefs on homosexuality as collective narcissism. I could have brought up the right demanding that all people adhere to THEIR beliefs on abortion as collective narcissism. I could have brought up the right demanding that the Ten Commandments remain at public courthouses across the country, until SCOTUS said "no way".
Or the right demanding that all people adhere to ANY of their beliefs, as collective narcissism.

Or do you wish to deny that the right tries to impose their belief structure on the country as a whole?
Consider things like: Mandated school prayer; abortion rights; blue laws; LGBTQ rights; the aforementioned Ten Commandments issue; puritanical "anti-pornography" regulations.

Do you think there is an Establishment Clause in the First Amendment simply because the founders were bored?
Do you think it's been part of so many lawsuits because the Christian right WASN'T trying to impose their beliefs on others?
collective narcissism - A strong, often unrealistic, belief in the group's uniqueness and greatness

The Christian right feels they are so great and unique, that their beliefs must be the beliefs of ALL Americans.
No thank you.
As I pointed out to @Buck you conflate Christianity with "The Right." If what you meant was the Christian Right exhibits cmCollective Narcissism, then that is what you should have posted.
And I suppose we'll just be expected to let it go with what you "know beyond a shadow of a doubt" (a verbatim quote, BTW).
Or are you able to provide any solid evidence on that?
Everything that I said is beyond a shadow of doubt are indeed beyond a shadow of doubt. The fact that you would even try to dispute those facts just demonstrates your disconnect from reality and the collective narcissism that afflicts the left.
 
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