Tracy McGrady's Lambo....

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by SuckMikeHawk23 oops, sorry, when u said grant i thought u meant hill, but the i realized you were talking about horace.

 

i never said a persons race has anything to do with anything, im just saying im chinese and im glad ming (a person of my nationality is going to make it to the all-star game, i then realized the short quote after that may have caused some confusion).

 

two teams have been built around shaq, but with shaq in his prime the last 3 years, the lakers coulda easily won a title without kobe. put another player in there that is an allstar and they woulda won a title. if u take the penny of the orlando days and pair him up with the shaq of the last 3 years, theres an easy title for you right there.

 

shaq may be just size, but take hakeem in his prime and put him up against shaq in his prime, shaq will still dominate him. but if you wanna talk about a better overall player, then theres no doubt its hakeem. but athleticism doesnt win championships, its dominance that wins. jordan dominated his opponents, he won 6 titles... shaq dominates oponents, he won 3. hakeem dominated in his prime, thats why he got his 2.

 

and about pippen being one of the nbas 50 greatest players.... i find that REALLY hard to believe... i think pippen is overrated, he's a good player, really good actually, but not one of the best... he was good in chicago because of MJ, but to put pippen on that list is just absurd..... his defense is good, but he just straight up blows on offense, always has, always will.

I don't think the Lakers woulda won any titles w/o either of them..come playoffs, they complement each other very well. Hakeem in his prime would school shaq, he has no footwork on defense, sits his sloppy *** under the basket, hakeem had moves.

I also agree that pippen shouldnt be top 50, partially cuz I grew up a knicks fan, but the guy woulda been nothin w/o jordan. In his prime, he was a good 20/8/5 guy, but does that make someone a top 50 player?

 

[SuckMikeHawk23 10+ year member]

Originally posted by snova031 I don't think the Lakers woulda won any titles w/o either of them..come playoffs, they complement each other very well. Hakeem in his prime would school shaq, he has no footwork on defense, sits his sloppy *** under the basket, hakeem had moves.

I also agree that pippen shouldnt be top 50, partially cuz I grew up a knicks fan, but the guy woulda been nothin w/o jordan. In his prime, he was a good 20/8/5 guy, but does that make someone a top 50 player?

i still think the lakers can win a title without kobe... dont get me wrong, the kids got mad game, but shaq is just tooooo d@mn dominant. if u threw pippen during his prime in the mix with shaq, shaq can win a title, he doesnt need kobe like kobe needs him. when ur demanding triple teams in the post, ur gonna compliment ur guards well, and yea, kobes ability to get inside the key does open up things a bit for shaq, but its still one sided in the sense that opposing defenses first concern is shaq. get any guy who can slash and shaq will be shaq, those guys are easy to find, but u dont see 7'2" and 350 plus pounds of pure muscle too often. and im sure hakeem would school shaq on the offensive end, but when shaq is on offense, he'd school hakeem, plain and simple, but its easier for shaq to move hakeem out the way and score than it is for hakeem to get shaq out of the paint and score, they can just throw a good defending power forward on hakeem and switch shaq over when he tries to drive. throw three men on shaq, he'll dunk on all three. good thing hes falling tho, cuz now i can finally watch another team win the finals and dont have to hear all the stupid laker fans here in LA talk their madness //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

ok I just saw this topic, holly ****ing schnit, I just lost ALL respect for T-mac as a person, he is still awsome as a Basket ball player, but that is an absolute sin, I am Italian and if I told my relatives this they would go freaking nuts, it is defaceing a piece of art workm and he does not have any apprication for it, I would venture to guess buy the way whould would probably drive it that masive 6.0 V-12 will shread that auto slush box, god **** this makes me really MAD, that car is made buy hand and is only available to a very select few people that can possible afford at they very small sliver of time that they are built and sold during our life time, this is a slap in our faces, thats how I see it, i would sell my soul for that car, //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nono.gif.eca61d170185779e0921b0faa9704973.gif :nono: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nono.gif.eca61d170185779e0921b0faa9704973.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif :furious: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif

 

[infinifosgate 10+ year member]

Reply to the auto/stick thing.....just so you know, just because a car is automatic, doesnt mean that it is slower than a stick driven car. An auto can hang with a manual any-day. Number 1, automatic cars dont deal with human errors- aka missing a gear or some shit like that. The only thing that an auto cant do is launch from like 5000 RPM, but who the hell cares, all you get is wheel spin than.

my 2 cents

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

Originally posted by SuckMikeHawk23 two teams have been built around shaq, but with shaq in his prime the last 3 years, the lakers coulda easily won a title without kobe. put another player in there that is an allstar and they woulda won a title. if u take the penny of the orlando days and pair him up with the shaq of the last 3 years, theres an easy title for you right there.

 

shaq may be just size, but take hakeem in his prime and put him up against shaq in his prime, shaq will still dominate him. but if you wanna talk about a better overall player, then theres no doubt its hakeem. but athleticism doesnt win championships, its dominance that wins. jordan dominated his opponents, he won 6 titles... shaq dominates oponents, he won 3. hakeem dominated in his prime, thats why he got his 2.

 

and about pippen being one of the nbas 50 greatest players.... i find that REALLY hard to believe... i think pippen is overrated, he's a good player, really good actually, but not one of the best... he was good in chicago because of MJ, but to put pippen on that list is just absurd..... his defense is good, but he just straight up blows on offense, always has, always will.

anyway..hehe..wheeeeeeeeeeee

but MJ not only was dominate..but way more athletic......few were close...clyde, dominic...dr.j....magic........that's why mike is the greatest of all time..period.

pat riley said it best about houston's two titles...mj still playin...bulls win eight in a row

not taking anything away from the dream...but^^^^^^

hakeem in his prime would own shaq.period. he would just take him outside..shaq is just like ..well..snova said it best......

he has no footwork on defense, sits his sloppy *** under the basket, hakeem had moves.

outside the paint..shaq who? shaq cannot win titles by himself.....dominate players don't win games..dominate TEAMS win championships....mj didn't win until he had a supporting cast..the most dominate player will just not let u lose......

i don't remember saying pippen was one of the 50 greatest...if he is..good for him..but not deserved..i said shaq shouldn't have been included..he had accomplished NOTHING at the time of the list...at least pippen had a few rings....pippen 20/8/5..day in and out...AND 80% or better at the stripe..what about shaq?? he is getting better....but still...

in short..the lakers can't win without either kobe or shaq...right now they ain't winning with both of 'em..hehe.......new question...who's gone at the end of this year??? shaq or kobe? my vote is kobe is outa there...

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by infinifosgate Reply to the auto/stick thing.....just so you know, just because a car is automatic, doesnt mean that it is slower than a stick driven car. An auto can hang with a manual any-day. Number 1, automatic cars dont deal with human errors- aka missing a gear or some shit like that. The only thing that an auto cant do is launch from like 5000 RPM, but who the hell cares, all you get is wheel spin than.

 

 

my 2 cents

9 times out of ten the AUTO weighs more and the gearing is more conservative, so top end will usually be lower, and the time it take the auto to sence a need to change gear the manual could already be there and acclerating out f a turn, my experience they dont compare

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

Originally posted by denim 9 times out of ten the AUTO weighs more and the gearing is more conservative, so top end will usually be lower, and the time it take the auto to sence a need to change gear the manual could already be there and acclerating out f a turn, my experience they dont compare

aww..the gearing in a auto..hehe...well.....us 4 wheelers in the know will tell ya that an auto is the better ****** for crawling...why? the torque converter effectivaly(spell) "lowers" ur gear ratio.....hence a better launch....also..most od ******'s have a lower first gear then a comparable manual...and with a shift kit..an auto can/will shift faster then it's human counterpart......in most cases a manual is the stronger ******...but not necessarly......the manual is still the better ******, but not by much..not anymore.

oh yeah..alot of drag racers are switching to autos...

the torque convertor is a wonderful little thing...hehe

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee