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<blockquote data-quote="mrray13" data-source="post: 135512" data-attributes="member: 540942">anyway..hehe..wheeeeeeeeeeeebut MJ not only was dominate..but way more athletic......few were close...clyde, dominic...dr.j....magic........that&#039;s why mike is the greatest of all time..period.pat riley said it best about houston&#039;s two titles...mj still playin...bulls win eight in a rownot taking anything away from the dream...but^^^^^^hakeem in his prime would own shaq.period. he would just take him outside..shaq is just like ..well..snova said it best......&nbsp;outside the paint..shaq who? shaq cannot win titles by himself.....dominate players don&#039;t win games..dominate TEAMS win championships....mj didn&#039;t win until he had a supporting cast..the most dominate player will just not let u lose......i don&#039;t remember saying pippen was one of the 50 greatest...if he is..good for him..but not deserved..i said shaq shouldn&#039;t have been included..he had accomplished NOTHING at the time of the list...at least pippen had a few rings....pippen 20/8/5..day in and out...AND 80% or better at the stripe..what about shaq?? he is getting better....but still...in short..the lakers can&#039;t win without either kobe or shaq...right now they ain&#039;t winning with both of &#039;em..hehe.......new question...who&#039;s gone at the end of this year??? shaq or kobe?&nbsp; my vote is kobe is outa there...wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee<img src="http://community.caraudioresources.com/html/emoticons/headbang.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="mrray13, post: 135512, member: 540942"] anyway..hehe..wheeeeeeeeeeee but MJ not only was dominate..but way more athletic......few were close...clyde, dominic...dr.j....magic........that's why mike is the greatest of all time..period. pat riley said it best about houston's two titles...mj still playin...bulls win eight in a row not taking anything away from the dream...but^^^^^^ hakeem in his prime would own shaq.period. he would just take him outside..shaq is just like ..well..snova said it best...... outside the paint..shaq who? shaq cannot win titles by himself.....dominate players don't win games..dominate TEAMS win championships....mj didn't win until he had a supporting cast..the most dominate player will just not let u lose...... i don't remember saying pippen was one of the 50 greatest...if he is..good for him..but not deserved..i said shaq shouldn't have been included..he had accomplished NOTHING at the time of the list...at least pippen had a few rings....pippen 20/8/5..day in and out...AND 80% or better at the stripe..what about shaq?? he is getting better....but still... in short..the lakers can't win without either kobe or shaq...right now they ain't winning with both of 'em..hehe.......new question...who's gone at the end of this year??? shaq or kobe? my vote is kobe is outa there... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee[IMG]http://community.caraudioresources.com/html/emoticons/headbang.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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