To the libs who believe obama's policies work

[Scratchy 10+ year member]

lol

You think that spending trillions on a fake war in the wrong country, and killing many thousands of our kids, wasn't going to have a cost that the next Prez. would bear the burden of?

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

1) In a free economy like the United State's the chief of the executive branch has very very little effect on job creation and employment numbers. This is the case with Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc. Whether they take credit for positive movement in employment or run from the blame associated with negative movement, the white house ultimately has little effect on short term employment numbers.

2) One of the things that you should take from your own links is that reading into the employment data is very complicated. There are positive signs and negative signs. The US created a large number of jobs over the last two months (more than expected), but over the last couple years a significant number of people have dropped completely out of the job market (the BLS graph shows one aspect of this). Unfortunately there seems to be increasing amount of data that the employment problems in the US have alot more to do with structural unemployment rather than slow economic growth.

 

[Scratchy 10+ year member]

I think some one may not realize obama made it worse then bush had it....

How so, precisely, and can you back it up deducting the cost of paying for Bush's runup?

 

[Imtjnotu 5,000+ posts]

why would anyone willingly do something so stupid?

because voting for romney is a more stupid idead

 

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I think some one may not realize obama made it worse then bush had it....

wasnt aware that obama sent out troops into 2 wars.......that we didnt need to be in?

 

[Bettr n' Revrse 5,000+ posts]

you think that spending trillions on a fake we in the wrong country, and killing many thousands of our kids, wasn't going to have a cost that the next prez. Would near the burden of?

lol

 

[Scratchy 10+ year member]

Yeah, I hate autocorrect, too...

 

[ahole-ic]

How does Detroit feel about this?(GM is again the # 1 car manufacturer in the world, after nearly being insolvent in 08')

Please post numbers to prove this. I can easily disprove you... so go for it. Simply lying about something won't cut it.

Besides, Bush and company absolutely destroyed this country's economy, legitimacy, and national sense of self, you really think that it is/was truly possible to repair that in three years?

What exactly did Bush do to destroy this country?

Or that this economy is global, and that the US has very little control or say over the the ripple effects of a truly global recession, one exacerbated by the US lack of regulations in the financial

Markets between 2000-2008?

So which happened first? Did the global markets come down or did the US housing market come down? I think you're getting the cart before the horse proving that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Are you true believer in Laissez-fare, or is it al

Just FOX posturing?

What is "Fox posturing"?

Also, I believe the government should have minimal intervention into the private sector. We are seeing right before our very eyes how bad it can be when the federal government overreaches.

 

[ahole-ic]

because voting for romney is a more stupid ideadWhy?

 

wasnt aware that obama sent out troops into 2 wars.......that we didnt need to be in?

Financially speaking, the wars are a drop in the bucket to the spending obama has done on the healthcare fiasco, the bailouts etc.

 

[Bettr n' Revrse 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, I hate autocorrect, too...

Not what I was laughing at....

Please post numbers to prove this. I can easily disprove you... so go for it. Simply lying about something won't cut it.What exactly did Bush do to destroy this country?

So which happened first? Did the global markets come down or did the US housing market come down? I think you're getting the cart before the horse proving that you have no idea what you're talking about.

What is "Fox posturing"?

Also, I believe the government should have minimal intervention into the private sector. We are seeing right before our very eyes how bad it can be when the federal government overreaches.

Liking you more and more man hahaha

 

[ahole-ic]

How so, precisely, and can you back it up deducting the cost of paying for Bush's runup?

How much did he run up? How much did obama run up?

 

[MANTI5 10+ year member]

No matter how much you spin arguments for or against, it's highly likely Obama will be re-elected.

 

[Imtjnotu 5,000+ posts]

Financially speaking, the wars are a drop in the bucket to the spending obama has done on the healthcare fiasco, the bailouts etc.

the cost of the wars was 4 trillion.....drop in a bucket hahahahahaahahahahaha

romney also apposes pulling out of iraq....come on now.......why stay there.....

u may hate obama but do u honestly think voting for romney will change any of this?

 

[ahole-ic]

1) In a free economy like the United State's the chief of the executive branch has very very little effect on job creation and employment numbers. This is the case with Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc. Whether they take credit for positive movement in employment or run from the blame associated with negative movement, the white house ultimately has little effect on short term employment numbers. 2) One of the things that you should take from your own links is that reading into the employment data is very complicated. There are positive signs and negative signs. The US created a large number of jobs over the last two months (more than expected), but over the last couple years a significant number of people have dropped completely out of the job market (the BLS graph shows one aspect of this). Unfortunately there seems to be increasing amount of data that the employment problems in the US have alot more to do with structural unemployment rather than slow economic growth.

I don't know if you're missing the point on purpose or if you're just not capable. The president put his initiative forth for stimulus and the democrat congress (pre 2010) acted on it. The president signed it and got his stimulus package for "shovel ready jobs" etc that was designed to keep unemployment below 8%. It didn't, and so now they are lying saying they are creating jobs. My links disprove that, and the shovel ready jobs were a scam, the video proved that by obama's admission.

 

[Bettr n' Revrse 5,000+ posts]

No matter how much you spin arguments for or against, it's highly likely Obama will be re-elected.

Ehhhh Im not thinking its so likely... People are tired of the talk and are realizing pretty quick I think that we need a doer not smooth talker

 

[xShoWTeKx 10+ year member]

ok the facts are yea we really didnt need to be in iraq, but obama did just as less to pull our troops out as anybody else he didnt pull them out at all the newly founded iraq government asked us to leave. and obama took the fairly bad debt that bush had left and more than doubled it in 3 years and raised our national debt ceiling how many times???