To Do or Not To Do?

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

Go with it. All the guys talking about how high the price is, just don't know what quality work is. The price is correct. You are not getting a box, you're a custom fabricated enclosure to blend into you car. These guys are comparing a trailer home to a mansion, saying it has 2 bedrooms and a kitchen so it's the same.

 

[csu87 10+ year member]

yeah, if your install is going to be anything like what they have on their website, you are paying a reasonable price.

to the guy saying theres a shop that will install for $50, I guarantee they aren't doing an install even a 1/4 as good as is place and sure as **** aren't going to even touch the processor. that $50 install is going to be to wire up an amp and that's it. This guy is looking for a full build

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

well not all the bells and whistles. My man don't do kerfs or octos lol. If I get another box from him, I will definitely get some 45s thrown in the corners tho lol
but ****, that shop is capital Fuckin him on the box price

well to the op, carpeting, solid design and construction are his bells and whistles lol. 45s arent really needed in lower powered sub applications, it just looks nice and provides bracing. In higher powered sub applications like with an FI SP4 moving crazy air through the port then yeah wave guides will shine along with the extra bracing it provides. No comment on the octoport though lol, too fancy there.

OP look up Raamat, stp gold, or knukonceptz kno knoise. The best in the market right now is Second skin but thats pricey and for your application, its not really necessary. Deadening is one of the most simple jobs you can do, just google/youtube up how to take off your door panel then just stick the deadener on any big wobbly surface, use a knife to cut and shape. Then cover the big gaping holes of the door. Use your hands, or a roller/screwdriver/rolling pin w/e to get the job done.

If you had stickers when you were a kid, its the same concept lol.

For the rest of the job you can just hit up Dmac1991's recommended place.

Those RCAs are good and nicely shielded.

@trumpet I mean getting the best to install your stuff is fine and dandy, but getting practically the same sound quality by cheaper means while saving a few grand is much more realistic.

Going with a good head unit over a bit 10 would make your install a lot easier, still sound great after doing the Auto EQ which can be done by yourself easily. Its also waaay cheaper then a DSP but a sound processor does make a huge difference in sound quality if done right but it needs to be professionally tuned which will cost more. The choice is yours on what you want. 400 for the bit ten 400 for tuning. Or 300 for the 80 prs, your budget your call.

 

[Suisiders]

Yeah I definitely want Soundscape to do the build. I wasn't aware that they were making a custom fabricated enclosure to blend into my car. I just assumed it was a normal box tuned to my sub. But it sounds like they will be using fiberglass so maybe thats why its so expensive?

 

[csu87 10+ year member]

Are they doing a build like this one they have going on? with fiberglassing and custom woodwork and the whole lot? or just installing?

soundscape

 

[Dmac1991]

Like I said, Suisiders, buy the stuff online, and take it to VooDoo Customs in Fort Worth

They will install your DSP and amp for $50, aslong as everything else is ready to go.

now on to your equipment

DSP: Audison Bit Ten $400 (Fine)

AMP: Rockford Fosgate P1000x5 $410 OBO

Comps: Focal PS 165 $370 OBO

Sub: Sundown Audio SA-12 D2 (600RMS) $200 (Fine)

Wires/Sound Deadening:

4 Gauge Amp Kit $60

Premium 25ft RCA's $7.33 + shipping. The kit comes with some, IDK why you need more? But here

RCA Splitter .41 + shipping

KnuKonceptz Kolossus 2 Door Deadener $64.99

take all of this to VooDoo and they will hook you up. They do quality work man. No way should you be getting charged out the *** for all that **** with the ridiculous markups they are doing.

 

[Dmac1991]

yeah, if your install is going to be anything like what they have on their website, you are paying a reasonable price.
to the guy saying theres a shop that will install for $50, I guarantee they aren't doing an install even a 1/4 as good as is place and sure as **** aren't going to even touch the processor. that $50 install is going to be to wire up an amp and that's it. This guy is looking for a full build

how much money you tryna lose? wanna bet?

 

[Suisiders]

Are they doing a build like this one they have going on? with fiberglassing and custom woodwork and the whole lot? or just installing?
soundscape

As far as I'm aware of they will install the 6.5" mids in the stock location with custom mounts thats it. They will need to install the tweeters which will have to be custom because I have the base 14 Corolla so no factory tweeter locations. They will be making a custom sub enclosure for the trunk for my single 12 and I'll have a 5 channel amp to power everything probably mounted on the back seat. They will also be installing the Bit ten and tuning it. But its definetly nothing like that G35 build as far as I know of. We have yet to go to my car and talk about the way they will install everything.

 

[negolien]

Yeah sometimes the "high end" shops are charging you for their name. I had a supposed "high end" shop here do a "custom" install of a Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS to replace a stock head unit. Custom meaning trimming some dash bracing for depth and notching a trim panel. The morons didn't even bother to reset my gains for my subs and put in a non amp PAC unit that rendered my Bi-Amped 6x9's virtually non existent. Not saying your guys **** but man don't just take someone's word for sh*t because they are a high end shop. Check their prices and their work and don't be afraid to haggle.

 

[csu87 10+ year member]

how much money you tryna lose? wanna bet?

you are saying for $50 they will install door speakers, all the wiring for them, the subwoofer, the amps, the processor and all necessary wiring? you realize that alone will take a couple hours. Then, they will also tune the processor, that will take upwards of a few hours? how much do you have to lose? get me an invoice

 

[Dmac1991]

you are saying for $50 they will install door speakers, all the wiring for them, the subwoofer, the amps, the processor and all necessary wiring? you realize that alone will take a couple hours. Then, they will also tune the processor, that will take upwards of a few hours? how much do you have to lose? get me an invoice

Did you read my post?

I said they will install his DSP and amp for $50 aslong as everything else is ready to go. (Sub wired up ready to go in box, wiring all ready, etc. . . )

So yeah, how much you want to lose?!

I would NEVER pay a shop to "tune" my setup. WTF for? Are they the ones listening to the system on the daily? Waste of money having a shop tune a setup. AND then who would sit there for hours just for the shop to tune to THEIR liking?

to op:

Suisider there's tons of YouTube videos out there that will teach you how to tune your setup. Do NOT waste your money having a shop do that.

As far as installing the component speakers, Im sure there's a Corolla forum out there on the internet, with someone on that site having upgraded their stock speakers with a how-to guide on how to remove the door speakers and add aftermarket ones. So do NOT waste your money having a shop do that

I also agree with Jeff. I would take a good quality headunit (Pioneer DEH-80PRS i.e.) over a DSP any day. It does all the tuning for you in just about 7 minutes time.

Car audio is only as hard as you make it sir. Now if you want to really pay $4500 to a shop for all that unnecessary stuff, then have at it. I'll be expecting to see you with another thread about a week later asking for help with your setup because it doesn't sound right.

You could buy a custom enclosure on here, or even have one built. There's TONS of subwoofer wiring diagrams out there that will help you when wiring a subwoofer enclosure to an amp. So why pay a shop to do that?!

You get what Im saying. With a internet connection, and the willingness to learn, you can save alot of money, and gain some knowledge along the way, over having a shop install your stuff.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

i work at a shop and do custom panels and pieces all the time. make sure that you understand what panels and pieces are going to be custom made or off the shelf. make sure that you and the shop are clear on what the install will look like. any time I have a customer who doesn't understand, I walk away from the install b/c it will just be a disappointment when the customer picks up their car. sounds like me being a ***** but i don''t want the customer/client to have a bad experience and I'd don't want to deal with doing work for free b/c the person is retarded. go back to the shop and ask them is they can better explain what the final product is going to look like.

 

[csu87 10+ year member]

Did you read my post?
I said they will install his DSP and amp for $50 aslong as everything else is ready to go. (Sub wired up ready to go in box, wiring all ready, etc. . . )

So yeah, how much you want to lose?!

That's not apples to apples lol. of course they will only charge $50 to install his amp and dsp if everything else is done. All they gotta do is plug it in. If hes already ran all the wiring and installed everything else, I'm sure he would be able to connect it to the amplifier. That is the easiest part of the install. That be like me making a pizza and baking it, then taking it to dominos to deliver it to me.

OP, if you want some advice from someone who has spent some time building an SQ system, LMK. Tuning alone takes quite a bit of time.

 

[negolien]

That's not apples to apples lol. of course they will only charge $50 to install his amp and dsp if everything else is done. All they gotta do is plug it in. If hes already ran all the wiring and installed everything else, I'm sure he would be able to connect it to the amplifier. That is the easiest part of the install. That be like me making a pizza and baking it, then taking it to dominos to deliver it to me.
OP, if you want some advice from someone who has spent some time building an SQ system, LMK. Tuning alone takes quite a bit of time.

Yeah no sh*t I wouldn't listen to crap that other guy has to say. I' am not super hip to trust everything someone says but don't go ghetto either lol there is a happy medium that comes with some knowledge of what you expect I think.

 

[Suisiders]

I understand doing it yourself is way cheaper. I built my own computer for $800 and it out does premade gaming PCs that cost $5,000. I'm sure car audio is the exact same way. I really do want to learn to do it myself but I want it done right at the same time. I'm sure after enough trial and error I'll get it right eventually. My original goal was to build a ****** system for $2,000. The Soundscape build is around $2,280 but labor/tuning double the price. If anyone lives near Garland, Rowlett, Plano, Mesquite, Wylie, Sachse or in the Dallas area that wouldn't mind helping me on the install I would definetly go that route in a heart beat.