thought provocation for the bored

doesnt e=mc2 prove that the only thing that can travel the speed of light is light. it would take an infinite amount of energy to move that speed

Actually scientist have broken the speed limit by reasearchers at the NEC R.I.P in NJ, they sended a pulse of light through a transparent chamber filled with cesium gas and pushed to travel at speeds of 3 times the normal speed of light. The light travels so fast that the main part of the light pulse exits the chamber even before it enters. Theoretically, this means that you could see a moment in time before it actually takes place, and i think this jeopardizes the theory of relativity wich rests on the idea that the speed of light is the universal limit to how fast anything can travel.

 
Einstein's equation gives us the most concrete explanation for the central fact that nothing can travel faster than light speed. You may have wondered, for instance, why we can't take some object, a muon say, that an accelerator has boosted up to 667 million miles per hour—99.5 percent of light speed—and "push it a bit harder," getting it to 99.9 percent of light speed, and then "really push it harder" impelling it to cross the light-speed barrier. Einstein's formula explains why such efforts will never succeed. The faster something moves the more energy it has and from Einstein's formula we see that the more energy something has the more massive it becomes. Muons traveling at 99.9 percent of light speed, for example, weigh a lot more than their stationary cousins. In fact, they are about 22 times as heavy—literally. But the more massive an object is, the harder it is to increase its speed. Pushing a child on a bicycle is one thing, pushing a Mack truck is quite another. So, as a muon moves more quickly it gets ever more difficult to further increase its speed. At 99.999 percent of light speed the mass of a muon has increased by a factor of 224; at 99.99999999 percent of light speed it has increased by a factor of more than 70,000. Since the mass of the muon increases without limit as its speed approaches that of light, it would require a push with an infinite amount of energy to reach or to cross the light barrier. This, of course, is impossible and hence absolutely nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.
http://www.amazon.com/Elegant-Universe-Superstrings-Dimensions-Ultimate/dp/0393058581/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227497962&sr=8-1

 
Actually scientist have broken the speed limit by reasearchers at the NEC R.I.P in NJ, they sended a pulse of light through a transparent chamber filled with cesium gas and pushed to travel at speeds of 3 times the normal speed of light. The light travels so fast that the main part of the light pulse exits the chamber even before it enters. Theoretically, this means that you could see a moment in time before it actually takes place, and i think this jeopardizes the theory of relativity wich rests on the idea that the speed of light is the universal limit to how fast anything can travel.

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light does have mass. very little, but it does. black hole's pull in light using gravity, which says that light does have mass.
actually this is still unproven, but it is true that they have found light does exhibit some characteristics of an extremely low mass object, they have also done studies using super sensitive extremely low mass objects suspended in space and shining light on them in a vacuum, and were able to get them to move almost immeasurably small distances using just light... so if we can think of a way to reduce our mass to that point...good luck

 
this will probably interest you kcd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_Is_Near

2045: The Singularity
* $1000 buys a computer a billion times more intelligent than every human combined. This means that average and even low-end computers are hugely smarter than even highly intelligent, unenhanced humans.

* The Singularity occurs as artificial intelligences surpass human beings as the smartest and most capable life forms on the Earth. Technological development is taken over by the machines, who can think, act and communicate so quickly that normal humans cannot even comprehend what is going on; thus the machines, acting in concert with those humans who have evolved into humanoid androids, achieve effective world domination. The machines enter into a "runaway reaction" of self-improvement cycles, with each new generation of A.I.s appearing faster and faster. From this point onwards, technological advancement is explosive, under the control of the machines, and thus cannot be accurately predicted.

* The Singularity is an extremely disruptive, world-altering event that forever changes the course of human history. The extermination of humanity by violent machines is unlikely (though not impossible) because sharp distinctions between man and machine will no longer exist thanks to the existence of cybernetically enhanced humans and uploaded humans.

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actually this is still unproven, but it is true that they have found light does exhibit some characteristics of an extremely low mass object, they have also done studies using super sensitive extremely low mass objects suspended in the air and shining light on them in a vacuum, and were able to get them to move almost immeasurably small distances using just light... so if we can think of a way to reduce our mass to that point...good luck
Yes those studys have proven a lot.

But don't you think that anything wich has some gravitational pull on other objects has mass?

http://van.physics.uiuc.edu/qa/listing.php?id=2044

 
Yes those studys have proven a lot.
But don't you think that anything wich has some gravitational pull on other objects has mass?
ok so lets say it does have that ridiculously small amount of mass/density...remember, this is AT the speed of light, that it has such a low mass that it is extremely difficult to measure and can only be inferred to have this mass in the first place. If we were to move at the speed of light, we would have to have less mass than light (while stationary). According to Einsteins theory, as posted above, we'd have to have infinitely less mass than light

 
To reach the speed of light you must have infinite acceleration for a finite amount of time. Or finite acceleration for an infinite amount of time. I'm putting my vote on bending space-time for long distance traveling. Even if we could travel the speed of light, the closest star system is 4 light-years away. Others are millions of light-years. I hate being pessimistic but unless we can prove Einstein wrong, a space ship probably never will reach the speed of light.

 
ok so lets say it does have that ridiculously small amount of mass/density...remember, this is AT the speed of light, that it has such a low mass that it is extremely difficult to measure and can only be inferred to have this mass in the first place. If we were to move at the speed of light, we would have to have less mass than light (while stationary). According to Einsteins theory, as posted above, we'd have to have infinitely less mass than light
Indeed. But if light has any mass at all. Can you condense that mass or increase the mass? If you can increase the mass wouldn't you be able to use that condensed light to push an object? Say that you have huge light bulbs and have them shine in a space where light has only a small exit? since light is always moving? I guess the only problem you would have is intense heat.

 
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