Havent heard the subs yet, but like I stated above these things can handle tons more than their rated power as told to me by a pg employee. When the rsd competition subs come out, they will be the icing on the cake to get pg back on track. This amp is supposed to be just as good or even better than the xenons. Completely new design, and internals.Dont look like anything to get excited about.....Have you happened to hear them yet?I keep hearing about PG getting back to making higher end stuff, just wondering if its going to happen or not.