skydeaner
10+ year member
suede humper
Okie dokie, as promised i installed these today and already have a good idea of how they sound. No one was lying about the midbass. Someone compared them to a 10" subwoofer, which is a lil over-exagerration, but they do a very impressive job none the less.
I have them on an autotek amp with crossovers set at 75hz lowpass 12db/octave, higher end panasonic head-unit with 13band eq, autotek 4 channel bridged to 360wrms per channel gains set to 150wrms a side just under the hu's clipping point. doors have a couple layers of edead (the all butyl kind) on the inside and outter doorskins. Convoluted foam is used behind each woofer, as big a chunk as i could fit. Non-hardening modelling clay was used under the mdf baffles and the foam ring that came with the mids was used under them where they mount to the mdf. Tweeter switch was kept at 0db's as the tweets are in my sail panels and on axis because of the awesome flush swivel mounts. Here's a pic.
The midbass is really the diamond of the set. Never have I heard quite this much bass come from 150 watts per side. My ADS's had double that power going to them and they didn't even come close to matching the midbass output, which is part of the reason i got rid of them. I see these rsd's blending easily with any sub setup. Even if you would be running a jackhammer and couldn't get high bass extension from that sucker over 60hz you should be fine. At the 150wrms point listening to songs with strong bass you can tell they are at their limits, so keep that in mind bassheads. Not that output is lacking at this point or anything.
Deep vocal passages were expressed true to life and weren't muddy or overexagerrated in the least bit. Female voices seemed a little harsh, higher female voices being worse, -2db's at 3khz and 5khz eliminated this problem very well.
Rock listeners will be very impressed. I listened to some seether, and some other crap I downloaded that struck my fancy (256kb mp3's are all I listen to, or real cd rips at lossless, if i cant get the 256's i just dont get the song period) and they sounded fantastic. The guitar in Finger Eleven, "Paralyzer" i could feel ripping against my leg lol. I dont listen to a lot of rock, more of a hip hop guy myself although i dabble in everything including moldy oldies. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif But these definitely do rock justice like you are standing in the crowd.
I am suprised more people havent said good things about the tweeters. I found them to be very nice. They put my ADS 346cs tweets to the test, and that is a 599.99 msrp comp set. They also sound nicer to me than any of the mb quart offerings i have tried, all though not quite as detailed as the qsd tweets, but definitely not as harsh either. I would liken them more to a CDT tweeter i heard in an elemental designs edi 6500s component set, only not quite as bright as that tweeter was. They are not tiring to listen to at all, even on axis.
I would also like to mention that i have never had a component set before with so little i have to eq out to fit my tastes. -2db at 3khz and 5khz is usually just a stepping off point to getting some sets how i like them, but these sound great with just that minor adjustment.
I have to say phoenix gold did some research before puttin these out. They must be tryin to get their name back like in the early 90's or whenever they were the ****. I was another one that got mine for 87 shipped and might be pickin up a second pair in case that price goes up in the future. I would recommend these to just about everyone. And i got my RSD 12" in today and should get my second on friday, so i will let you know how those work out as soon as i pick out my amp. I am shooting for about 1500wrms for them at 1 ohm.
I have them on an autotek amp with crossovers set at 75hz lowpass 12db/octave, higher end panasonic head-unit with 13band eq, autotek 4 channel bridged to 360wrms per channel gains set to 150wrms a side just under the hu's clipping point. doors have a couple layers of edead (the all butyl kind) on the inside and outter doorskins. Convoluted foam is used behind each woofer, as big a chunk as i could fit. Non-hardening modelling clay was used under the mdf baffles and the foam ring that came with the mids was used under them where they mount to the mdf. Tweeter switch was kept at 0db's as the tweets are in my sail panels and on axis because of the awesome flush swivel mounts. Here's a pic.
The midbass is really the diamond of the set. Never have I heard quite this much bass come from 150 watts per side. My ADS's had double that power going to them and they didn't even come close to matching the midbass output, which is part of the reason i got rid of them. I see these rsd's blending easily with any sub setup. Even if you would be running a jackhammer and couldn't get high bass extension from that sucker over 60hz you should be fine. At the 150wrms point listening to songs with strong bass you can tell they are at their limits, so keep that in mind bassheads. Not that output is lacking at this point or anything.
Deep vocal passages were expressed true to life and weren't muddy or overexagerrated in the least bit. Female voices seemed a little harsh, higher female voices being worse, -2db's at 3khz and 5khz eliminated this problem very well.
Rock listeners will be very impressed. I listened to some seether, and some other crap I downloaded that struck my fancy (256kb mp3's are all I listen to, or real cd rips at lossless, if i cant get the 256's i just dont get the song period) and they sounded fantastic. The guitar in Finger Eleven, "Paralyzer" i could feel ripping against my leg lol. I dont listen to a lot of rock, more of a hip hop guy myself although i dabble in everything including moldy oldies. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif But these definitely do rock justice like you are standing in the crowd.
I am suprised more people havent said good things about the tweeters. I found them to be very nice. They put my ADS 346cs tweets to the test, and that is a 599.99 msrp comp set. They also sound nicer to me than any of the mb quart offerings i have tried, all though not quite as detailed as the qsd tweets, but definitely not as harsh either. I would liken them more to a CDT tweeter i heard in an elemental designs edi 6500s component set, only not quite as bright as that tweeter was. They are not tiring to listen to at all, even on axis.
I would also like to mention that i have never had a component set before with so little i have to eq out to fit my tastes. -2db at 3khz and 5khz is usually just a stepping off point to getting some sets how i like them, but these sound great with just that minor adjustment.
I have to say phoenix gold did some research before puttin these out. They must be tryin to get their name back like in the early 90's or whenever they were the ****. I was another one that got mine for 87 shipped and might be pickin up a second pair in case that price goes up in the future. I would recommend these to just about everyone. And i got my RSD 12" in today and should get my second on friday, so i will let you know how those work out as soon as i pick out my amp. I am shooting for about 1500wrms for them at 1 ohm.