**The MLB Thread**

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

fuuccckkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!

wtf is Omar thinking!!??

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

I predict the Orioles will be as bad next year, unless we land some super star pitchers out of no where instead of paying huge dollars to players past their prime.

 

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We want BEDARD!!!!

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[bibby 5,000+ posts]

Astros Sign Kaz MatsuiBruce Levine of ESPN 1000 reports had it first: the Astros have signed second baseman Kaz Matsui to a three year deal worth $15-16MM. Ed Wade saved Jim Hendry from himself. Bruce Miles of the Daily Herald and Jose de Jesus Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle confirm the signing. Richard Justice speculates that the 'Stros could shop Chris Burke now, and maybe even package him with Luke Scott.

Matsui is the early favorite for worst free agent signing of the winter. He is probably not worth half the money, and a three-year commitment for him is insane. Since he joined the Rockies in August of 2006, Matsui hit .256/.305/.370 away from Coors Field.

Not that Matsui is a legitimate starting second baseman, but the signing clearly leaves Tadahito Iguchi as the one free agent starter at the position. That is, unless David Eckstein opts to market himself as a second baseman.

I'm not sure about this at all. I'd like to see what burke could do playing everyday, but i guess this year wont be the year.

 

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Johan Santana

UPDATE, 12-2-07 at 1:30pm: Buster Olney is reporting that the Sox will include Ellsbury in their offer, but pull Lester out of it. Basically the Twins can have one or the other. Olney doesn't say whether Buchholz/Ellsbury is possible, but I imagine it's not. The Twins are expected to choose an offer from Boston or New York soon.

FROM 12-2-07 at 8:45am:

When we left off last night, the Twins and Yankees were still haggling over the third player in a Johan Santana trade. The Twins wanted Alan Horne or Austin Jackson, according to Jon Heyman. Now comes word from Tyler Kepner that those two are considered untouchable in the deal by the Yanks. Dellin Betances, Ian Kennedy, and Jose Tabata round out the five that they will not include as the third player.

It's said that the Yankees will turn to Dan Haren if they don't reach an agreement with the Twins today or tomorrow. The Twins still like Jacoby Ellsbury more than Phil Hughes, so they're trying to get the Red Sox to replace Coco Crisp with him in their offer.

 

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I dont like Ellsbury going to the Twins

 

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Mets should get Xavier Nady and Dan Haren/Erik Bedard and be done with it

 

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UPDATE, 12-2-07 at 6:15pm: Ken Rosenthal says Santana told the Twins he won't waive his no-trade clause during the season. It's now or never. The packages the Yankees and Red Sox are offering are definitely better than two draft picks, especially since there's no guarantee one of them will be a first-round pick. I'd be surprised if he's not moved this week.

 

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[snova031]

That Milledge deal was absolutely retarded, especially when you have 2 veteran catchers on your roster, not counting LoDuca, who is most likely gone. Now they have 3 veteran catchers, and an average right fielder for their claimed most prized prospect.

 

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That Milledge deal was absolutely retarded, especially when you have 2 veteran catchers on your roster, not counting LoDuca, who is most likely gone. Now they have 3 veteran catchers, and an average right fielder for their claimed most prized prospect.

Estrada

Schneider

Castro

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Stupid panic move by Omar. We better get an ACE out of this mess!

 

[Verlander]

I thought the Mets non-tendered Estrada?

 

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I thought the Mets non-tendered Estrada?

I know they were planning to do it......I havent heard if they did it already

The Mets offered him to the Nats for free but they didnt want him

 

[snova031]

He won't play for the Mets. I guess they were just looking for a way to unload Mota and not have to pay anything, good move.

Even so, that leaves them with 2 catchers, neither of which is a really good option to start full-time.

 

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one sucks offensively..the other gets injured alot