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it's an mlb thread and i'm discussing a signing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif atleast it's not as stupid as the soriano signing.
there are a few leadoff hitters available for less money like podesednik, figgons, and crawford who would be more worth 9 million per

NONE !! Pierre is a good pickup and is a team player. Nothing else needs to be said at this point. Lets see what happens next season before you get too hasty on what he deserves money wise.

 
NONE !! Pierre is a good pickup and is a team player. Nothing else needs to be said at this point. Lets see what happens next season before you get too hasty on what he deserves money wise.
since he has been in the league a few years i believe i can accurately guestimate what he'll do next year, provided he doesn't have some brady anderson 50 home run season

 
since he has been in the league a few years i believe i can accurately guestimate what he'll do next year, provided he doesn't have some brady anderson 50 home run season
I guess you never really know what someone will do with a change of scenery.

BTW, thats Brady Anderson 90210

 
wtf? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif
Back when Brady Anderson hit those 50 homers the big sitcom back then was Beverly Hills 90210. Well Brady of course had those big sideburns just like the punks on that show had. So Chris Berman nicknamed him (like he nicknames alot of athletes) Brady Anderson 90210. Sort of how he used to call Ben Coates........Ben Winter Coates.

 
Back when Brady Anderson hit those 50 homers the big sitcom back then was Beverly Hills 90210. Well Brady of course had those big sideburns just like the punks on that show had. So Chris Berman nicknamed him (like he nicknames alot of athletes) Brady Anderson 90210. Sort of how he used to call Ben Coates........Ben Winter Coates.
never watched the beverly hills 90210 and chris berman annoys me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 
Back when Brady Anderson hit those 50 homers the big sitcom back then was Beverly Hills 90210. Well Brady of course had those big sideburns just like the punks on that show had. So Chris Berman nicknamed him (like he nicknames alot of athletes) Brady Anderson 90210. Sort of how he used to call Ben Coates........Ben Winter Coates.
I remember when he did that. He still to this day does it. Wasnt he the one that nicknamed Willam Perry the Fridge? Well you would think it was him.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 
morneau wins mvp. my choice for mvp. keith law is such a dumbass. mauer would not have had such a good season without morneau protecting him in the lineup, law spared himself totall dumbasship by mentioning carlos guillen. i mean if jeter is a mvp contender, then guillen should be ahead of him.

Morneau awful choice for AL MVP

posted: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 | Print Entry

I think all carping about the NL MVP voters getting their choice wrong must immediately cease. The AL's voters couldn't even correctly identify the most valuable Twin, never mind wrapping their heads around a whole league.

The reality of baseball is that a great offensive player at an up-the-middle position is substantially more valuable than a slightly better hitter at a corner position. And when that up-the-middle player is one of the best fielders at his position in baseball, there's absolutely no comparison. Joe Mauer was more valuable than Justin Morneau this past season. If you don't understand that, you don't understand the first thing about baseball.

Mauer had a 54-point edge in OBP over Morneau, which overwhelms the advantage Morneau had in slugging percentage (a 52-point edge), and he is arguably the best-fielding catcher in the game when you consider all aspects of catching. Catchers who field and hit the way Mauer does are extremely valuable, just as shortstops who hit like Derek Jeter does and play passable defense are extremely valuable. First basemen who hit like Morneau just shouldn't win MVP awards in years when there are Mauers and Jeters and other candidates to choose from.

Even going by the stats that the dinosaur voters have favored for as long as the MVP award has existed, Morneau's season wasn't all that impressive. He tied for 12th in the AL in homers. He was second in RBI -- seven behind David Ortiz -- and just nine ahead of the least clutch player to ever be clutch, Alex Rodriguez. He was seventh in batting average, a few miles south of Mauer and Jeter, the other major MVP candidate. It's hard to fathom why any voter would put Morneau at the top of his ballot with so many obviously better candidates -- Mauer, Jeter, Ortiz, Jermaine Dye, unanimous Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana or the criminally neglected Carlos Guillen (the best player on the AL pennant winner) -- and in reality, more than half the voters did just that. If you don't watch the games, fellas, don't fill out your ballots.

Incidentally, the following voters should be removed from the voting process permanently:

• The guy who put Jeter sixth.

• The guy who put Mauer 10th ... and the five guys who left him off their ballots entirely.

• The three guys who put Frank Thomas second.

• The guy who put A.J. Pierzynski 10th.

And while we're at it, how the heck did Thomas -- the third-best designated hitter in the American League -- end up fourth in the voting? It's just more evidence that the bulk of this year's voters don't understand what is actually valuable in baseball: Players who hit and play good defense up the middle are the most valuable position players in the game. The NL had only one such candidate this year (Carlos Beltran), so it's understandable that that award went to a corner bat. It's time for some of these voters to put aside their fantasy-baseball mentality -- one that assumes that RBI measure something important and that OBP is a hip-hop song from the early 1990s -- and to take the MVP vote seriously again.

 
Once again on the radio there is hype about the Orioles going after a big name free agent. In this case its Carlos Lee, I am almost positive he will not come to Baltimore, either end up in Boston or NY and we will be screwed again.

 
Once again on the radio there is hype about the Orioles going after a big name free agent. In this case its Carlos Lee, I am almost positive he will not come to Baltimore, either end up in Boston or NY and we will be screwed again.
baltimore would be smart not to sign lee. this offseason has been nuts. the pierre, soriano, and mathews signings were all terrible. i was a little skeptikal at the sheffield deal, but that is starting to look much better.

 
morneau wins mvp. my choice for mvp. keith law is such a dumbass. mauer would not have had such a good season without morneau protecting him in the lineup, law spared himself totall dumbasship by mentioning carlos guillen. i mean if jeter is a mvp contender, then guillen should be ahead of him.Morneau awful choice for AL MVP

posted: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 | Print Entry

I think all carping about the NL MVP voters getting their choice wrong must immediately cease. The AL's voters couldn't even correctly identify the most valuable Twin, never mind wrapping their heads around a whole league.

The reality of baseball is that a great offensive player at an up-the-middle position is substantially more valuable than a slightly better hitter at a corner position. And when that up-the-middle player is one of the best fielders at his position in baseball, there's absolutely no comparison. Joe Mauer was more valuable than Justin Morneau this past season. If you don't understand that, you don't understand the first thing about baseball.

Mauer had a 54-point edge in OBP over Morneau, which overwhelms the advantage Morneau had in slugging percentage (a 52-point edge), and he is arguably the best-fielding catcher in the game when you consider all aspects of catching. Catchers who field and hit the way Mauer does are extremely valuable, just as shortstops who hit like Derek Jeter does and play passable defense are extremely valuable. First basemen who hit like Morneau just shouldn't win MVP awards in years when there are Mauers and Jeters and other candidates to choose from.

Even going by the stats that the dinosaur voters have favored for as long as the MVP award has existed, Morneau's season wasn't all that impressive. He tied for 12th in the AL in homers. He was second in RBI -- seven behind David Ortiz -- and just nine ahead of the least clutch player to ever be clutch, Alex Rodriguez. He was seventh in batting average, a few miles south of Mauer and Jeter, the other major MVP candidate. It's hard to fathom why any voter would put Morneau at the top of his ballot with so many obviously better candidates -- Mauer, Jeter, Ortiz, Jermaine Dye, unanimous Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana or the criminally neglected Carlos Guillen (the best player on the AL pennant winner) -- and in reality, more than half the voters did just that. If you don't watch the games, fellas, don't fill out your ballots.

Incidentally, the following voters should be removed from the voting process permanently:

• The guy who put Jeter sixth.

• The guy who put Mauer 10th ... and the five guys who left him off their ballots entirely.

• The three guys who put Frank Thomas second.

• The guy who put A.J. Pierzynski 10th.

And while we're at it, how the heck did Thomas -- the third-best designated hitter in the American League -- end up fourth in the voting? It's just more evidence that the bulk of this year's voters don't understand what is actually valuable in baseball: Players who hit and play good defense up the middle are the most valuable position players in the game. The NL had only one such candidate this year (Carlos Beltran), so it's understandable that that award went to a corner bat. It's time for some of these voters to put aside their fantasy-baseball mentality -- one that assumes that RBI measure something important and that OBP is a hip-hop song from the early 1990s -- and to take the MVP vote seriously again.
You are kidding me right? Why is it that you think he is so much better than Jeter? Please explain. I remember last time we had this and I do recall you thought he is just plain better, but why? Stats wise Jeter is better than him.

Jeter had 1 more game played, 41 more hits than Gullien(Thats a huge difference), 2 less doubles and 2 less triples. Had less homeruns by 5, but 12 more Rbi's. Also Jeter had less errors and better overall fielding%. Also Jeter batted .344 to Gulliens .320.

So I just dont get it. Is it because you are a Detriot Fan? I mean come on, he shouldnt be considered. Jeter is way above him now and has been. He will be a hall of famer as well Gullien wont be remembered at all years down the road. You still make me.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 
You are kidding me right? Why is it that you think he is so much better than Jeter? Please explain. I remember last time we had this and I do recall you thought he is just plain better, but why? Stats wise Jeter is better than him.

Jeter had 1 more game played, 41 more hits than Gullien(Thats a huge difference), 2 less doubles and 2 less triples. Had less homeruns by 5, but 12 more Rbi's. Also Jeter had less errors and better overall fielding%. Also Jeter batted .344 to Gulliens .320.

So I just dont get it. Is it because you are a Detriot Fan? I mean come on, he shouldnt be considered. Jeter is way above him now and has been. He will be a hall of famer as well Gullien wont be remembered at all years down the road. You still make me.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
did i say i thought guillen SHOULD be the mvp? lets look at the rosters shall we. here are all the yankees beside jeter who have been to an all-star game: johnny damon, bobby abreu, alex rodriguez, gary sheffield, jason giambi, hediki matsui, jorge posada, robinson cano, bernie williams

now the tigers. magglio ordonez, ivan rodriguez, sean casey. (remember polanco was never an all-star) when you take what guillen has done WITH THE TIGERS and compare them over 162 games with what jeter has averaged over 162 games, they are very similar.

 
did i say i thought guillen SHOULD be the mvp? lets look at the rosters shall we. here are all the yankees beside jeter who have been to an all-star game: johnny damon, bobby abreu, alex rodriguez, gary sheffield, jason giambi, hediki matsui, jorge posada, robinson cano, bernie williams
now the tigers. magglio ordonez, ivan rodriguez, sean casey. (remember polanco was never an all-star) when you take what guillen has done WITH THE TIGERS and compare them over 162 games with what jeter has averaged over 162 games, they are very similar.
Baseball is more a solo thing than a team thing. I mean you cant compare them based on just who is on the team.

 
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