**The MLB Thread**

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I feel like this has turned into a 3 way circle jerk and I'm not invited so I'll just say....
























































































GO SOX!!!!

Your a Sox fan, so Fawk ya anyway.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, it's not good. :crazy:Guy only won 19 games for us and had an amazing ERA. He really isn't a strike out pitcher, but will give ya 130 plus a year. Sometimes you come with the weakiest shit ever. If it wasn't for him we wouldn't be were we are now.

Innings pitched are innings pitched. I said he has a good chance of struggling next year. It is not good on a young pitcher's arm to increase their innings like that. It has been proven, and I gave you recent examples. Does it happen to every pitcher? No Verlander is an example of that, but I would be concerned about Carmona next year.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

so ur saying that if you start a relief pitcher you should stay a relief pitcher your whole career? i mean, im sure fausto didnt start pitching for the first time in his life when he became a pro....hell in high school and summer league he probably pitched a hell of alot more than he does in the majors now.......

He did and I told the dumbass that. It's like talking to a god dam wall.

A very ugly wall at that.

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

Has Pedro even pitched a full season since coming to New York? Pedro is past his prime. In 2008 I'll take Verlander over Pedro. The chances Verlander dominates and wins a Cy Young are greater then Pedro's chances. Hell the odds are against Pedro Pitching a full season.

2005 15-8 2.82 217ip 208ks 0.95 WHIP .204 AVG 8.63 Ks/9

that right there will be better than any season Justin will ever have //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

its no secret that Pedro was pitching while injured......now he is not //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Verlander's ERA will always be high...he lacks control

good thing you have run support //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

so ur saying that if you start a relief pitcher you should stay a relief pitcher your whole career? i mean, im sure fausto didnt start pitching for the first time in his life when he became a pro....hell in high school and summer league he probably pitched a hell of alot more than he does in the majors now.......

You don't triple his innings the very next season. That is not good for a young arm.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Innings pitched are innings pitched. I said he has a good chance of struggling next year. It is not good on a young pitcher's arm to increase their innings like that. It has been proven, and I gave you recent examples. Does it happen to every pitcher? No Verlander is an example of that, but I would be concerned about Carmona next year.

Ok now your saying innings pitched are innings pitched like it means nothing. Make up your fawking mind you doucherocket!

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

injured Pedro > healthy Verlander

/discussion

 

[mr Tibbs 10+ year member]

Your a Sox fan, so Fawk ya anyway.

:sniff: :sniff: I smell fear, the fear of returning to Fenway!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

2005 15-8 2.82 217ip 208ks 0.95 WHIP .204 AVG 8.63 Ks/9
that right there will be better than any season Justin will ever have //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

its no secret that Pedro was pitching while injured......now he is not //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Verlander's ERA will always be high...he lacks control

if you didnt have such a big lineup he wouldve probably been a .500 pitcher this year.

LOL too bad it isn't 2005. Verlander has only been in the league 2 years. I can name you numerous Cy Young pitchers who didn't have the stats Verlander has after 2 seasons. Verlander's whip, BAA, SO, K/9, K/BB, hits per 9 innings all improved this season, so he is making progress, and getting better comand. Verlander is not a finished product yet.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

injured Pedro > healthy Verlander

/discussion

Anthony Young> Pedro > Verlander

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[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Ok now your saying innings pitched are innings pitched like it means nothing. Make up your fawking mind you doucherocket!

It doesn't matter how many strikeouts a pitcher has, and inning pitched is an inning pitched. I give up. You are too ****ing stupid to talk to.

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

Anthony Young> Pedro > Verlander
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[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

If you go back to Pedro's first 3 full seasons, 94-96, his numbers are similar to Verlander's.

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

LOL too bad it isn't 2005. Verlander has only been in the league 2 years. I can name you numerous Cy Young pitchers who didn't have the stats Verlander has after 2 seasons. Verlander's whip, BAA, SO, K/9, K/BB, hits per 9 innings all improved this season, so he is making progress, and getting better comand. Verlander is not a finished product yet.

Pedro is not a finished product either

he has just come back from surgery...he was pitching while he was injured //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

shall we let 2008 do the talking :0)

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

:sniff: :sniff: I smell fear, the fear of returning to Fenway!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Its ok, we got it right where we want it.