**The MLB Thread**

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

the Mets are cruising right now the whole point is you want your team to peak come playoffs and it seems Cleveland is peaking a little too early..the Yankees big worry is LA. Cleveland is much less of a challenge and the Yanks handle Sox pitchers very well.

San Diego has 2 aces but they better throw complete games because Hoffman always pisses away anything in a big spot.

They are peaking just at the right time to make a playoff push. Your theory about them peaking right now baffles me being if they haven't, Detriot would probably still be in 1st and we would be more than out of the playoffs or trying to make a run for the Wild card. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif I could see if you said that in the 1st half.

Then the thing about Hoffman. Yeah, he is only the best closer in the game. Well at least he has the most saves and has done it in sweet fashion. He is getting older and is running out of steam, but he is still having a heck of a year. Hell one of the better up and coming closers in Rodriguez for the Angels has been rocked a lot lately. So Hoffman might throw a couple games away, happens a lot more than you think from some of the best of the best closers. Your Wagner has done it, correct?

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

I would say theyre just as good.Kennedy not as good as Beckett yet, but Chamberlain is better than Papelbon.

All I can say is wow.

WOW.

Beckett= WS MVP, AL Cy Young candidate- 17-6, 3.30 ERA. Kennedy= 2 major league starts.

Papelbon= 69 saves in less then 2 full seasons, career ERA of 1.52, has given up 0 ER, and only 1 hit, in his last 13.2 innings. Chamberlain= 11 major league appearances, 14.1 IP, 0 ER.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

And BTW...San Diego has the best bullpen in the national league...they have something like 17 shutouts, and only 1 complete game, if I remember correctly?

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Please explain how the manager of the Cleveland Indians in Eric Wedge is doing a horrible job managing them.(Being they are one of the best 1/2 punch this year.) I am sure it is as retarded a reason as everything else, but humor me.
Then why you explained your rotation is beyond me. You would be extremely lucky to make the post season.

Now Cleveland out of the first round, maybe, maybe not. Anything is possible come playoff time. I think I can recall an 83 win St. Louis Cards beating the snot out of the Tigers last year. Humm amazing concept!

Because CC already has way over 200 innings and Carmona already surpassed his professional career high in innings.

I think I can recall Cleveland not winning a world series is 59 years

I also recall the curse of Rocky Colavito

 

[tbasile1 10+ year member]

Finally the Indians will get one on the Angels!! Bottom of the 9th 6-1 lead

CC pitched today //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Coulda beat those Angels yesterday but lost in extra innings!

Detroits starting to get hot, Indians have to stay ahead!

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

All I can say is wow.
WOW.

Beckett= WS MVP, AL Cy Young candidate- 17-6, 3.30 ERA. Kennedy= 2 major league starts.

Papelbon= 69 saves in less then 2 full seasons, career ERA of 1.52, has given up 0 ER, and only 1 hit, in his last 13.2 innings. Chamberlain= 11 major league appearances, 14.1 IP, 0 ER.

dude do you even watch the games? Gimme strikeout tallies plz.

Chamberlain is more dynamic than any others mentioned except Zumaya but Zumaya has only 2 pitches and looks like he uses everything hes got to top 100 meanwhile Chamberlain throws 98 with ease.. When you make the likes of Vlad Guererro look like a CHUMP, youre pretty dam good.

And get off Becketts nuts hes good but a 3.75 career ERA isnt great. Chien Ming Wang has the same stats, you dont hear me oogling over him

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

The winner of the AL is going to be Boston or Anaheim. Detroit, New York, and Cleveland will all get pwnd in the first round. I really see New York having the worst shot at advancing. Cleveland can throw CC and Carmona at you, even though Wedge is doing a horrible job managing them two, Detroit can throw Verlander, and possibly Rogers, Bonderman, Jurrjens, and New York has nothing behind Wang. Detroit proved last year that New York can't win on offense.

nothing but their best clutch starter in Pettitte.

I love how I cant talk about Kennedy being a bright spot in a mediocre rotation but you keep bringing up Jurrjens and Bonderman ohhh please!

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

nothing but their best clutch starter in Pettitte. I love how I cant talk about Kennedy being a bright spot in a mediocre rotation but you keep bringing up Jurrjens and Bonderman ohhh please!

When did I say Jurrjens and Bonderman were better then Becket and Papelbon? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

i wonder if A-rod did/does roids

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

dude do you even watch the games? Gimme strikeout tallies plz.Chamberlain is more dynamic than any others mentioned except Zumaya but Zumaya has only 2 pitches and looks like he uses everything hes got to top 100 meanwhile Chamberlain throws 98 with ease.. When you make the likes of Vlad Guererro look like a CHUMP, youre pretty dam good.

And get off Becketts nuts hes good but a 3.75 career ERA isnt great. Chien Ming Wang has the same stats, you dont hear me oogling over him

Papelbon only has 77 strikeouts to joba's 18 and a 1.5 K's per 9 innings to Joba's 1.27, so yea Joba really has the advantage on strikeouts.

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

When did I say Jurrjens and Bonderman were better then Becket and Papelbon? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

when did I say Kennedy was better than Beckett? Pettitte/Kennedy is a better tandem than Bonderman/Jurrgens sorry to break the news.

Comparing rookie years, Chamberlain is better than Papelbons so far and i see no signs of fading. He only throws a fastball and slider right now so I dont need to hear bs about hitters not knowing whats coming. Sorry. Well see what happens.

I see no need to further defend the team that isnt my favorite team so if you have any questions about the Mets go right ahead

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

lol so everyones slider and fastball is the same? there is something to this outside of the fact of saving his arm. starting pitchers normally throw 5+ innings this guy is lucky to throw 2 in 4 days lol

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

when did I say Kennedy was better than Beckett? Pettitte/Kennedy is a better tandem than Bonderman/Jurrgens sorry to break the news. Comparing rookie years, Chamberlain is better than Papelbons so far and i see no signs of fading. He only throws a fastball and slider right now so I dont need to hear bs about hitters not knowing whats coming. Sorry. Well see what happens.

I see no need to further defend the team that isnt my favorite team so if you have any questions about the Mets go right ahead

LOL Joba has only thrown 14 innings in his career. Jurrjens isn't even the Tigers best prospect. Jurrjens reminds me of a young Pedro Martinez. Both have the same build, both throw mid 90's fastballs, both have good changeups, both aren't afraid to pitch inside, and both have great poise and mound presence.

Bonderman and Jurrjens project to be the 4th and 5th starters in this rotation so it's not saying much if your potential 1 and 2's are better then Detroit's 4 and 5's.

Plus Joba is a reliever and you are comparing him to a starter. Joba doesn't have the stuff to be a starter. He'll most likely be Mariano's replacement.

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

wrong and wrong. he will be a starter next year to replace Clemens Pettitte or Mussina, and was brought up only because the yankees pen stunk and was a big reason why they were losing games early in the year. He is not allowed to pitch consecutive days because he started all year and thats how much they want to protect that arm, although I think once postseason comes around theyll toss those rules right out the window.

Talk about presence, how about throwing at Youkilis head twice. Roger is rubbing off on the 21 year old! I wish the Mets would do that to Pat Burrell! No, heres another meatball Pat, hit another home run!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

wrong and wrong. he will be a starter next year to replace Clemens Pettitte or Mussina, and was brought up only because the yankees pen stunk and was a big reason why they were losing games early in the year. He is not allowed to pitch consecutive days because he started all year and thats how much they want to protect that arm, although I think once postseason comes around theyll toss those rules right out the window.Talk about presence, how about throwing at Youkilis head twice. Roger is rubbing off on the 21 year old! I wish the Mets would do that to Pat Burrell! No, heres another meatball Pat, hit another home run!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif

lol a season is a season and the yanks pitching is still on the bottom half of the league.