Phat why do you talk about Verlander faultering? I mean the kid is having a fantastic season. I mean by no ways am I fan of Detriot even though I like them better than the cocky *** white sox fans, but hey, he is having a hell of a season. Kudos to him. Will he last? Who really knows. I think this year he will be mid to high 3 in era with a good win to loss ratio. So that is what counts and maybe he will not do so good like your sir John Garland, but maybe he is the next big thing. I mean you cant say hey he hasnt pitched that many innings. I mean he hasnt played that much, so duh! From what I can see, he has good control and keeps the ball low and has some good stuff. Never know. To me seems like your trying to will him to ****. Which I would be trying to will more into your own pitching as it overall dont look that great. I think with the way Chicago Sox are pitching right now they dont stand a chance, period. I mean Detriot has what all 5 pitchers with mid 3 era's with actually a new comer in miner in the mid 2's? Then when Maroth comes back they have another starter who was having an impressive year. There pitching has just really came together and with the healthy Ordonez, Gullien and newcomers in Shelton and Granderson with experience of Pudge, they will be hard to beat and as much as I hate other teams in the same division as Cleveland, I am actually happy for the Tigers and there fans as they have waited a hella long time to have a good season. Still not a fan, but I respect there play. It will be very hard for the white sox to repeat this year.