The format war is over.

[1991Brougham 10+ year member]

Now how long before Paramount decides to go Blu-Ray?

Rick

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Now how long before Paramount decides to go Blu-Ray?
Rick

I wouldn't think it would take them too long so they don't miss out on the BR Sales.

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

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[desertheat 10+ year member]

Just waiting for transformers on blue ray hahaha. Man that will be fun.

 

[1loudsuv 10+ year member]

I wouldn't think it would take them too long so they don't miss out on the BR Sales.

I know huh, billion dollars to be made of Blu ray......niche format, and most likely its gonna stay that way

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I know huh, billion dollars to be made of Blu ray......niche format, and most likely its gonna stay that way

LAWL...

So you are saying that the pro HD-DVD movie studios aren't going to switch?

They are going to still boycott BR?

 

[1loudsuv 10+ year member]

LAWL...
So you are saying that the pro HD-DVD movie studios aren't going to switch?

They are going to still boycott BR?

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No duh they are gonna switch.... but you said "missing out on sales" like many exist...blu ray is still a niche format and so was hd dvd. I highly doubt that is gonna change. Welcome to the next HD DVD just blu ray will last 3 or so years and go the way of sacd.

 

[1loudsuv 10+ year member]

I really think downloads will be the future, big hard drives are becoming cheaper and cheaper. I just picked up a WD 750 gig external drive for $150 at best buy this weekend and I bet thats gonna hold a ton of movies //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Every time I look they get cheaper and cheaper give it another 3-5 years and 1 terabyte drives will be the norm on pc's.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

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No duh they are gonna switch.... but you said "missing out on sales" like many exist...blu ray is still a niche format and so was hd dvd. I highly doubt that is gonna change. Welcome to the next HD DVD just blu ray will last 3 or so years and go the way of sacd.

Interesting theory you have there...

But, I am going to have to disagree...

Anyway, I don't think you can compare SACD/DVD-A & BR either. For several reasons:

1. Systems - To notice a real benefit from going with a SACD/DVD-A over CD you need to have a good listening system. Most people have a HTIB, Crappy Speakers, BOSE, TV Speaker, or other systems that wouldn't allow them to enjoy the benefits at all. This being said, why would someone go out and buy a SACD/DVD-A Player if on their system the listener can't pick out the difference between a 192kHz/24bit track and a 44.1kHz/16 bit track. With BR and HD Video it is rather easy to see the difference between 480p and 1080p even on a middle of the road TV.

2. Cost - The cost of many SACD/DVD-A Players when they first came out was in the $800-$1200 range, and they stayed there for a while. When you can go out and pick up a BR player for $399 (about the same as some of the original DVD Players) it makes more sense.

3. Availability - I don't know if you have ever been SACD/DVD-A shopping, but, they were hard to find at the apex of the trend. HD-Video is easy to find. Wal-Mart, Target, BB, CC, almost every internet retailer has inventory, end caps, and adds. The product is right there in your face.

4. HD Audio v. HD Video - Today most of people listen to MP3s, many ripped at very poor rates. The mass of music consumers want cheap, easy to use, downloadable to the iPod music. If many do buy CDs they want to stick it in the computer have iTunes rip it and add it to the iPod, putting the CD on the shelf to collect dust or ride around in their car. There is no push for HD Audio. HD-Video however is completely different. Watch TV some night and see how many adds there are about "HD Cables is better than Dish", "DirectTV HD is the best", "Locals on HD", "Discovery HD theater in stunning 1080i, join Club 1080 Now", "Now in HD", "Cincinnati's only News in HD". There is a MASSIVE push for everything video to be in HD. How many Standard Definition Televisions do you see when you go to the store. Almost none compared to the number of HD, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, Full HD, TVs (or whatever the marketing calls them). While what do you see in the consumer store Audio wise? iPod, Zune, HTIB, BOSE, maybe Klipsch or Polk. I think this is a big big difference.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

very nice breakdown joe

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

very nice breakdown joe

Why thank you.

I just don't see the connection... Other than it was Sony v. Someone else.

But, other than that, I don't see much of a connection.

I don't remember seeing any SACD/DVD-A adds on TV. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[bds0688 10+ year member]

Interesting theory you have there...
But, I am going to have to disagree...

Anyway, I don't think you can compare SACD/DVD-A & BR either. For several reasons:

1. Systems - To notice a real benefit from going with a SACD/DVD-A over CD you need to have a good listening system. Most people have a HTIB, Crappy Speakers, BOSE, TV Speaker, or other systems that wouldn't allow them to enjoy the benefits at all. This being said, why would someone go out and buy a SACD/DVD-A Player if on their system the listener can't pick out the difference between a 192kHz/24bit track and a 44.1kHz/16 bit track. With BR and HD Video it is rather easy to see the difference between 480p and 1080p even on a middle of the road TV.

2. Cost - The cost of many SACD/DVD-A Players when they first came out was in the $800-$1200 range, and they stayed there for a while. When you can go out and pick up a BR player for $399 (about the same as some of the original DVD Players) it makes more sense.

3. Availability - I don't know if you have ever been SACD/DVD-A shopping, but, they were hard to find at the apex of the trend. HD-Video is easy to find. Wal-Mart, Target, BB, CC, almost every internet retailer has inventory, end caps, and adds. The product is right there in your face.

4. HD Audio v. HD Video - Today most of people listen to MP3s, many ripped at very poor rates. The mass of music consumers want cheap, easy to use, downloadable to the iPod music. If many do buy CDs they want to stick it in the computer have iTunes rip it and add it to the iPod, putting the CD on the shelf to collect dust or ride around in their car. There is no push for HD Audio. HD-Video however is completely different. Watch TV some night and see how many adds there are about "HD Cables is better than Dish", "DirectTV HD is the best", "Locals on HD", "Discovery HD theater in stunning 1080i, join Club 1080 Now", "Now in HD", "Cincinnati's only News in HD". There is a MASSIVE push for everything video to be in HD. How many Standard Definition Televisions do you see when you go to the store. Almost none compared to the number of HD, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, Full HD, TVs (or whatever the marketing calls them). While what do you see in the consumer store Audio wise? iPod, Zune, HTIB, BOSE, maybe Klipsch or Polk. I think this is a big big difference.

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[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I have been looking for it but can't find it, but does anyone have a link to a site that lists what some of the 1st Gen DVDs and Players sold for.

I based what I posted on what I paid, was quoted, and saw.

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

i still hope BR goes away and some kind of non-disk format comes along...

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

i still hope BR goes away and some kind of non-disk format comes along...

I wouldn't expect it anytime soon...

But, yea a non disk non optical format would be nice...