Taxing pot could become a political toking point

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Weed doesnt impair you that much to need any of that.

Classic stoner denial

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

It wouldn't even have the novelty factor of buying moonshine. If it was legalized dealers would be out of luck. They would have to start stealing scrap metal like the tweakers or something...

It would actually be easier for them to transition their existing grow-and-sell network into a legitimate commercial business. They already have the goods and the clientele.

 

[mazzasec 5,000+ posts]

Classic stoner denial

Your right man. I get DUI about every other day cause I drive high //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Yet when your at a party have you ever heard anyone say "Yo man youve been smoking to much you probably shouldnt drive home and stay here" You probably dont, but you here that all the time about when people drink at parties

 

[alvitae 10+ year member]

Your dumb. I can smoke bowl after bowl blunt after blunt and drive fine. Can you drive fine after taking shot after shot drinking beer after beer? No cause you would get sick and puke. Have you ever got sick and puked from smoking?

You are the one that is dumb my friend. I was talking about the legality of it. Not the funny "I drive better Drunk/Stoned" argument.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

How come I have never gotten pulled over or anything while driving high then?

I don't think you should assume that your personal experience is representative of everyone's. Especially amongst novice cannabis smokers, people should not be convinced that getting behind the wheel is "right". I can basically do anything no matter how much I've smoked (or, more accurately, vapourized), but I know a lot of people who can't even get up in a coordinated manner after 2 or 3 hits.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

There is definitely a big difference between driving after cannabis and driving after alcohol, but that doesn't mean that driving after cannabis is appropriate.

 

[mazzasec 5,000+ posts]

You are the one that is dumb my friend. I was talking about the legality of it. Not the funny "I drive better Drunk/Stoned" argument.

I am not saying I drive better. I am just saying I do it alot. Not that I am an "expert" or anything. You just dont feel impaired at all.

 

[alvitae 10+ year member]

I am not saying I drive better. I am just saying I do it alot. Not that I am an "expert" or anything. You just dont feel impaired at all.

Yea, I hear ya. I was just talking about if they legalize it How would they handle the people driving stoned. Would they have a zero tolerance thing or what.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

I don't think you should assume that your personal experience is representative of everyone's. Especially amongst novice cannabis smokers, people should not be convinced that getting behind the wheel is "right". I can basically do anything no matter how much I've smoked (or, more accurately, vapourized), but I know a lot of people who can't even get up in a coordinated manner after 2 or 3 hits.

There are hard set limits for DUI though and tolerance doesn't matter, should DUID be any different? Are all alcoholics better drivers than "novice" drinkers?

Roadsides are not hard evidence, even though used. Without a quantifiable test for DUID/weed, reliance will be on roadsides and any suspected high driver will get charged and probably convicted.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

There are hard set limits for DUI though and tolerance doesn't matter, should DUID be any different?
Roadsides are not hard evidence, even though used. Without a quantifiable test for DUID/weed reliance will be on roadsided and any suspected high driver will get charged and probably convicted.

If the purpose is to stop intoxicated people from driving, then the quantity of the substance really shouldn't matter...only the level of intoxication (I mean physically not chemically). The problem is objectively defining such a point.

Those are both questions I can't honestly answer. To me, that is the biggest objection remaining for the legalization, because I cannot think of a framework in which we can prevent people from driving when high. I know there has been some development in testing systems, but this is still a big question mark.

Up here, you can't even search the vehicle if you smell cannabis when they roll down the window.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

If the purpose is to stop intoxicated people from driving, then the quantity of the substance really shouldn't matter...only the level of intoxication. The problem is objectively defining such a point.
Those are both questions I can't honestly answer. To me, that is the biggest objection remaining for the legalization, because I cannot think of a framework in which we can prevent people from driving when high. I know there has been some development in testing systems, but this is still a big question mark.

Up here, you can't even search the vehicle if you smell cannabis when they roll down the window.

That's honestly my only objection to legalization as well, for two reason:

1. I don't want a bunch of hippies thinking its ok to drive high

2. I don't want a bunch of hippies who got high last night unfairly getting a duid for driving today because a cop thought they were stoned but has no quantifiable data to prove so, just some roadsides

 

[alvitae 10+ year member]

Legalizing it will open up tons of new job opportunities. New industries, and keep the money in the us. Not sending it out to mexico, or canada, and where ever else it's being smuggled in from.

I agree is what I have to say. Look at my first post. I said go for it. But that doesn't mean there wont be problems. Like the DUI thing. That is what I have been posting about. And also the fact that I think they would make it illegal to grow yourself just like moonshine. hats all my posts have been about.

Not once did I say not to legalize it did I?

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

I have at a few points of time gotten so high I could not function

Just sat and ate 2 large pizzas

Took about 2 hours.

4 blunts of the purps between 2 people was not a smart idea

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Fuk it then. If the officer suspects you to be under the influence of weed then let him take you in. Make the law just as that, no tolerance for anyone under the influence while driving. And that way the state will get a little more money from bringing in people that do dui.

But what if some smartass cop pulls you in for suspicion when you weren't high. Then they test you and find a trace amount in your system that could be from a week ago. Is that right?

I guarantee once it becomes legal someone will develop a test to see the amount you have in you at that given time. Come on we can walk on the moon, and your telling me we can't make a simple test to see if someones buzzed?

OK, but the tests have to exist BEFORE its legalized to prevent abuse.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

But what if some smartass cop pulls you in for suspicion when you weren't high. Then they test you and find a trace amount in your system that could be from a week ago. Is that right?



OK, but the tests have to exist BEFORE its legalized to prevent abuse.

It pains me to agree with a Canadian, but pretty much that ^^^