Talked to DD today - DDZ Things

[power-fanatic07 5,000+ posts]

Deepness ITT

 

[ahole-ic]

This thread is sort of a perfect example of why you cannot rely on information that originates at CA.com. This place is just full of editorial. Someone starts off with a post that is actually correct. Other people lie and contradict it. THEN if we are lucky enough, someone who actually knows chimes in and corrects the misinformation. That last part doesn't happen quite often enough. I wish people who DON'T KNOW would just keep their opinion to themselves or state that it's opinion instead of stating something untrue as fact.

 

[twistedchild420 5,000+ posts]

DD ftw

 

[pawn man 10+ year member]

all hype. i still say the warden is superior sub.

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

konaki is a fake of AQ, which is a fake of DD. Or the other way around. Who wants a fake, fake?

Konaki is an AQ knock off, but AQ is not a DD knock off. 2 diff subs for 2 diff segments of the market. No reason for DJ to "steal" from his son...

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

Kind of annoying isnt it mlstrass.....people spewing fake knowledge from their melon.

all i can say about this topic, is that i own a pair of wardens.

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

Don't believe ANYTHING on the DDZ product page... FYI... it's all made up as a joke.
First sentence... "The Z series represent the pinochle of transducer archeology. " -- there are two "errors" in the first sentence as a joke already.

The DD-Z does not have a "top plate" -- there is an aluminum plate bolted up there... which is a shorting ring / structural part to hold the motor together and mount the basket.

The Z has a steel back plate and steel pillars that come up to the aluminum plate... then the neo magnets are mounted to the inside of the pillars at the top -- the magnetic flux goes from the neo to the pole piece without using a top plate.

IA argues that this leaves spots on the coil which are not immersed in the flux field as the magnets are not touching each other side to side -- there are gaps between the chunks of neo.

Awesome, glad someone posted that knows whats up.

This thread is sort of a perfect example of why you cannot rely on information that originates at CA.com. This place is just full of editorial. Someone starts off with a post that is actually correct. Other people lie and contradict it. THEN if we are lucky enough, someone who actually knows chimes in and corrects the misinformation. That last part doesn't happen quite often enough. I wish people who DON'T KNOW would just keep their opinion to themselves or state that it's opinion instead of stating something untrue as fact.

Are you saying i dont know or just talking general consensus of 99% of the shit around here. If its the latter then i x2 that.

Kind of annoying isnt it mlstrass.....people spewing fake knowledge from their melon.
all i can say about this topic, is that i own a pair of wardens.

I own teh warden too, i love it.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

honestly both motors are very strong both are excellent woofers.. bother use very powerful magnets.. what DD does thats different is use one side of the magnet thats directly parallel to steel that it magnetizes IE the magnet is the topplate while the other opposite charge still uses steel . either way you have to have steel in the equation..

i have never used ethier and probably won't but its safe to say there both very very powerful motors capable of some serious output.. its basically going to boil down to what woofer you can get most power to in your app...

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

I have a knoaki, yea they copied a DD, but I have yet to see anyone recone one using AQ or DD parts. I know the chinamen copied it but have not read or seen where someone dropped in AQ or DD softparts.

Proof?

 

[O.G. D-Wet 10+ year member]

Are the Warden and Z really comparable? I mean, yea they're both insane subs but I think they're a little too different to really say one is "better" than the other. Idk, I guess I'm saying DD needs to make a 21" Z for under 2k lol then I will compare

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

I honestly would go IA way before I would even consider paying the horrendously overpriced prices that DD charges

 

[O.G. D-Wet 10+ year member]

I honestly would go IA way before I would even consider paying the horrendously overpriced prices that DD charges

word. the price alone puts the Z in its own farout category

 

[abrhino 10+ year member]

I have a knoaki, yea they copied a DD, but I have yet to see anyone recone one using AQ or DD parts. I know the chinamen copied it but have not read or seen where someone dropped in AQ or DD softparts.Proof?

proof

http://caraudio.com/forum/car-audio-classifieds/466360-dd-9512g-lnib-d1-5-bnib-15-btl-new-motor-fully-loaded-d2-lowered-prices.html

 

[IMOVeCHICKENS! 10+ year member]

the AQ hdc3 and dd 95 series are completely different own em and compare em

 

[PioneerSPL1990 10+ year member]

alot of it depends on the flux alignment of the magnets themselves, you can buy bias which i beleive has a north-south pole like a normal ferrite magnet, or you and get none bias magnets that are unaligned and pull in all directions. from looking at neo whole salers it appears DD uses a non-bias= less power, and the IA uses aligned bias magnets, but the only way to test it out for sure is to drop a Gauss meter in the gap and see whats better. just my 2 cents.