lol @ post seven almost called it DD Z
lol @ post seven almost called it DD Z
multiple times.Didnt the owner of T3 or someone affilaited with them come over here some time ago and make a huge *** of themselves?
Ed Lester did a few months ago and I guess John DeMuth did a few years ago.Didnt the owner of T3 or someone affilaited with them come over here some time ago and make a huge *** of themselves?
//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gifmultiple times.
multiple times.
Thought so...Ed Lester did a few months ago and I guess John DeMuth did a few years ago.
This was the frame design Thilo did back in late 90's originally. We started using it in 2000 for our HE15's, shortly after Thilo gave exclusive car audio rights to Eclipse. The catch was that we weren't allowed to actively promote our woofers to the car market. Once Eclipse moved on an was no longer working with TC, the frame became public domain for everything. The tooling has been in China for years and was supposed to be exclusive to TC. However, when you don't pay your bills in China, your exclusive rights disappear. Most anyone could purchase the frames from China, but the design patent Thilo owned in the US prevented anyone from selling the drivers in the US without paying royalty. The design patents were sold off in the bankruptcy auction. From my understanding Matt Overpeck (anyone still remember him from audiomobile?) bought the design patents. Regardless, the frames are available, but can't be sold in the US without paying royalty to the holder of the design patent. I believe that patent is a 10 year and was granted on Dec 4, 2001.That basket is VERYYYYYYYYYYYYYY generic... eclipse used it before anyone, and it has been publicly available THROUGH TC for years, and it will not go away as I am vertain that they sold hte rights, the tooling, and the usage for it while they were going bankrupt...
LOL at you for not reading the whole thread.He didn't say anything about it being a DDZ.The person in the post before asked who he copied it from not what kinda sub is it.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.giflol @ post seven almost called it DD Z
This was the frame design Thilo did back in late 90's originally. We started using it in 2000 for our HE15's, shortly after Thilo gave exclusive car audio rights to Eclipse. The catch was that we weren't allowed to actively promote our woofers to the car market. Once Eclipse moved on an was no longer working with TC, the frame became public domain for everything. The tooling has been in China for years and was supposed to be exclusive to TC. However, when you don't pay your bills in China, your exclusive rights disappear. Most anyone could purchase the frames from China, but the design patent Thilo owned in the US prevented anyone from selling the drivers in the US without paying royalty. The design patents were sold off in the bankruptcy auction. From my understanding Matt Overpeck (anyone still remember him from audiomobile?) bought the design patents. Regardless, the frames are available, but can't be sold in the US without paying royalty to the holder of the design patent. I believe that patent is a 10 year and was granted on Dec 4, 2001.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=B-MIAAAAEBAJ&dq=thilo+stompler
John
^^ Ornamental patent 14 years, anybody can buy them all day every day from china...but you simply can't sell them for another 6 years //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. Not in the US or a US based company.FI & Crossfire now own the the patent on that basket!
Oh T3 is protected on there, don't question T3 on T3rmpro. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif this might give you your answer : http://audioforum.termpro.com/topic/8/27419.html