Superdrol NG...

ok, and i'm in the gym daily. your point?
you don't need aas. if you are working out your body to the max potential, eating right and lifting right along with protein intake, you should be getting bigger every week. no need for aas.
I do all of the above, can't get over 188lbs. I tried eating more, lifting harder, plenty of vitamins and protein.

 
actually, you're wrong.
i worked for a supplement store (supplementcentral.com) which doubled as a .com site and a retail store. i've met many body builders, including kurt angle, jay cutler, etc. along with locals such as powerlifter steve macdonald..

whenever you mess with the bodies natural testosterone, loss in libido/*** drive is probable, and almost expected. there are SOME cycles you can do that you won't notice too much of a dip in *** drive, but the kid who did superdrol twice ran it for 4 weeks i believe, and was on nolvadex with a combo of a trib product, hawthorn (which he ran the whole time alone with livercare products) and a couple other things.

when you do any steroid, or anabolic steroid loss of *** drive is a very common side effect even when you take the cycle the "proper" way, even using such products such as clomid or nolvadex for PCT and using a strong test booster.

it's not worth it dude, trust me, everyone wants to get big but those gains you get won't stay unless you're taking in 1.5-2g / lb of protein per day and working out consistently and increasing reps/weight. you will DEFLATE literally if you get big on a cycle, and just moderately work out because "you got big".

cant count how many people i've seen who were on 3rd or 4th week of superdrol, or pheraplex (which i've done) or deca, dbol, you name it, and a month later come in half the size they were because they didn't do a proper PC or continually work out.

my 2cents, go natural. your body will thank you in the end.

also, another MAJOR side effect - hair loss. with any steroid, or aas, it can have a negative effect on DHT which will in turn affect or eccelerate hair loss. i've seen that happen also, very common. thats something you cant reverse.
every experienced person i have talked to has had mild sides when using. the people who experience the libido loss and all that are people who dont run test with their other compounds, or people using deca. superdrol sides have been shown to be the result of rise in prolactin, probably why the nolva did nothing for him, youll need a progesterone antagonizer like cabergoline or bromocriptine.

youre right about the hair loss thing, it mostly affects those already predispositioned to hairloss in the first place though. anyone who isnt is pretty muhc good to go in that dept.

 
every experienced person i have talked to has had mild sides when using. the people who experience the libido loss and all that are people who dont run test with their other compounds, or people using deca. superdrol sides have been shown to be the result of rise in prolactin, probably why the nolva did nothing for him, youll need a progesterone antagonizer like cabergoline or bromocriptine.
youre right about the hair loss thing, it mostly affects those already predispositioned to hairloss in the first place though. anyone who isnt is pretty muhc good to go in that dept.
nolvadex is anti-estrogen. on any PC, you have to boost your natural test back to normal... in doing so, estrogen levels rise also. nolvadex is the best bet in that department, but that isnt the ONLY thing that you need for PC, especially with something like superdrol or methasteron.

 
any suggestions as to where i can find clomid or nolvadex?
dont mean to sound like a dick but youre gonna wanna do your own research on that. itll be the best way to learn what youre getting into. that's how i did it and im glad i did //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
dont mean to sound like a dick but youre gonna wanna do your own research on that. itll be the best way to learn what youre getting into. that's how i did it and im glad i did //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
nolvadex, tamoxifen citrate is available only by prescription...in the us. otherwise like i was sayin, you need to look into research chemicals (liquid nolvadex).

but ive used both liquid nolva and nolva tabs. both worked the same.

 
nolvadex is anti-estrogen. on any PC, you have to boost your natural test back to normal... in doing so, estrogen levels rise also. nolvadex is the best bet in that department, but that isnt the ONLY thing that you need for PC, especially with something like superdrol or methasteron.
agreed but with some compounds (superdrol, tren, deca) estrogen related sides arent the only ones that cause problems. prolactin will kill your *** drive and cause gyno also, and nolva doesnt combat this. ive seen many people take nolva for months on end to no avail because of this.

 
dont mean to sound like a dick but youre gonna wanna do your own research on that. itll be the best way to learn what youre getting into. that's how i did it and im glad i did //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Yeah I been researching this. Like I said earlier everything I come across is different. People claiming different things worked for PCT. I also know you can't purchase those at supplement stores.

 
Every time these topics pop up I amazed at the amount of people who fool with this stuff.

All you need is a proper diet..

Only supplements I use are creatine ethyl ester and 100% ON whey protein..

Past year and a half I have went from 170lbs to 200lbs...And I am just 5'8"..

Most important thing is to not quit working out.. Stick with it, change your routine ever 8-12 weeks, eat right, AND YOU WILL GAIN!

 
Much respect for just doing the creatine/protein thing, as I am really against all the roids and things that will kill your liver/kidneys in the long run. But... 5'8" 200 lbs? I know it isn't fat, but thats a little too big for my taste. hah I went from 125 to 160 and I'm 5'9" and I'm almost happy. Just using whey protein and just started on a naNO vapor.

 
nice thanks for the info. Did you get any of the side effects?
I got back pumps real bad. My blood pressure hit the 160's so i supplemented with lysinopril to bring it back to normal. My mind was cloudy the whole time. Other than that i was fine. Totally worth it for the gains. You can still get m-drol which is the same as the original superdrol so don't **** with anything else that is considered "new generation". Probably not as good as the original.

Oh yeah, and this last run killed my *** drive for almost 7 weeks. Not easy to do for me. Me and the wife used to **** 8 times a day. But after that 7 weeks was up i was back up to snuff. So no big deal for me, but she was a lil dissapointed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
I got back pumps real bad. My blood pressure hit the 160's so i supplemented with lysinopril to bring it back to normal. My mind was cloudy the whole time. Other than that i was fine. Totally worth it for the gains. You can still get m-drol which is the same as the original superdrol so don't **** with anything else that is considered "new generation". Probably not as good as the original.
Oh yeah, and this last run killed my *** drive for almost 7 weeks. Not easy to do for me. Me and the wife used to **** 8 times a day. But after that 7 weeks was up i was back up to snuff. So no big deal for me, but she was a lil dissapointed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
**** that blows, i was ready to hump anything with a hole when i was on lol

Much respect for just doing the creatine/protein thing, as I am really against all the roids and things that will kill your liver/kidneys in the long run. But... 5'8" 200 lbs? I know it isn't fat, but thats a little too big for my taste. hah I went from 125 to 160 and I'm 5'9" and I'm almost happy. Just using whey protein and just started on a naNO vapor.
if you know what youre doing you wont hurt your liver at all, orals are the liver killer, but those negative side effects can be easily circumvented, besides mother nature is gay and takes too long to get the job done, sometimes it needs a little push in the right direction //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
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